ls400 drift car [Archive] - VIPStyleCars.com

Caoboy

02-09-2006, 12:13 AM

Dominik

02-09-2006, 02:08 AM

Why would it be sick? I dont get the fascination with drifting anything that has RWD...

On that note how many buses are on the drifting circuit? I can imagine a massive double-decker bus which has been stripped and roll-caged going sideways around a circuit...

firelizard

02-09-2006, 06:34 AM

No buses in drifting yet, but there is a dragster school bus.
Anyways, I'm one of those people who like to see unlikely cars drift, but I wouldn't want to see a fuxxored LS either, it has to be nice and no all stickered up
If you wanna drift though, by all means go for it

RobSoVip

02-09-2006, 07:26 AM

NO. thats what 240's are for. if you want a lexus drift car, go get an SC300, or a GS300, or an IS300. the LS400 is a flagship car. its not meant to be beat on. its meant to look good in. hoes dont jock cars with fuxord primered rear quarter panels and doors that wont open.

Heres why:

First Gen LS400-
:Cheap
:RWD
:Japanese
:Huge following in Japan (as a VIPcar not a drift car, but still it has roots...)

So your going to have these kids that want to get into it seeing this car as a possible platform. Lets face it UCF10/11's are OLD now, most of them are CHEAP. Sure the tranny and engine wont take that kind of beating, but judging from the other cars they try and use... they either don't think that far out, or dont care

Summary, the first gen LS's are cheap, RWD, and most of them are now beaters (not a Flagship anymore :2funny:) so let them take them and drift them. The older cars aren't even in the VIP scene in Japan anymore.

mdenoga

02-09-2006, 07:59 AM

it would be sick in the first place because it is something different. it something out of the ordinary. if he has plans to work on a drifting LS, then let his mind imagine. but keep in mind that it won't be VIP. with that said, this should probably be moved to "off topic" since this is a VIPStylecars.com forum.

Pagong

02-09-2006, 09:19 AM

Summary, the first gen LS's are cheap, RWD, and most of them are now beaters (not a Flagship anymore :2funny:)
The older cars aren't even in the VIP scene in Japan anymore.

:'(

I am sooo glad that I live in the US :2funny:

3 Era

02-09-2006, 10:14 AM

The LS400 is such a nice car, don't turn it into a drift car (the newer models anyways).

Caoboy

02-09-2006, 11:22 AM

:'(

I am sooo glad that I live in the US :2funny:

me and you both brother. haha its still vip around here. people still jock it just because its a 'lexus'. and yes some are cheap, yet some are still quite up there in the price range, depending on how well it s been taken care of.

CharismaY33

02-09-2006, 11:27 AM

me 3 us baby haha. ;D just its the rwd thing people go nuts because its not the ordinary platform and ofcourse you can't drift fwd duh.
unless you are a uncle of ben then you completely thrash your e-brake on your prelude lol. :2funny:

shoez

02-09-2006, 02:15 PM

Keep. Lexus. VIP. Sure it would be different, but what would happen if drifting 400's would become the next big thing? Then what would happen to VIP? Next it would be drifting GS300s or Q45's and before you know it our culture just blends into the fabric of the modified automobile industry. Lexus is VIP, Corollas are drifting and IMO it should be kept that way.

jbo

02-09-2006, 03:06 PM

Seems like Ive seen this somewhere before this time :-X

ceso@fd

02-09-2006, 09:16 PM

my oppinon vip/drift car would be a chaser/mark 2 :P or gs like the hks one

ernpob

02-10-2006, 03:58 AM

Thanks Guys for all your inputs some bad and some good. But as with most things it comes down to money and chicks.
The early ls400 UCF10/11 are cheap. I can buy one at an auction for $500.00 and I can get a 1UZFE long block from a local wreak yard for $200.00. And now JIC and TEIN are offering great suspension up grades. Not to metion BLITZ's supercharger for the 3UZFE. But most of all chicks dig luxury cars. ;)

firelizard

02-10-2006, 06:00 AM

^that's a good point. But chicks don't dig getting thrown around until they puke. Keep in mind your average date will be more interested in leather seats and mood lighting than a roll bar and tire smoke.
On the other hand, it's not like Lexus drifting is new. Taniguchi has his Aristo and an Altezza prepped for drift.
Also, big Japanese cars aren't that uncommon either. In 2004 somone was drifting a big ass thing (Toyota something, I forget what) and there are Mark2s, C33s, Chasers etc..
I'm in favour of the project if it makes you happy.

Pagong

02-10-2006, 08:54 AM

* Not to metion BLITZ's supercharger for the 3UZFE. But most of all chicks dig luxury cars. ;)

I would check this first before you plunk down the money on the BLITZ supercharger.
The 3UZ and the 1UZ are two totally different engines. You should look into www.lextreme.com .

Caoboy

02-10-2006, 10:23 AM

I would check this first before you plunk down the money on the BLITZ supercharger.
The 3UZ and the 1UZ are two totally different engines. You should look into www.lextreme.com .

yeah dont spend your money on the motor yet. if you get your LS400 for 500 dollars at the auction, put all that money you saved up for it towards suspension/rims/kit/paint. get it loooking nice. those coilovers' specs arent really drift specs also, they are a lot softer than what most 'drifters' are used to, well the ones that actually drift, and put in actual race suspension in their cars.

and pagong, i was reading on lextreme, and i think the heads are interchangeable. you might want to look that up, i know they were working with using 2uz's and i think 3uz's and putting 1uz heads on there because it was so easy to work with I.E porting/polishing, and they were cheap. soo...if someone REALLY wanted to supercharge the first gen that way, i think they would just need to figure out the head swapping situation and then have to come up with the money for the supercharger haha. even with all that, you still have that problem with the automatic. most REAL drifters, they dont have automatics. thats a whole notha ball game.

shoez

02-10-2006, 12:46 PM

In 2004 somone was drifting a big ass thing (Toyota something, I forget what)

Are you thinking of the Verossa?
http://i1.tinypic.com/ngy0q0.jpg

Pagong

02-10-2006, 01:45 PM

pagong, i was reading on lextreme, and i think the heads are interchangeable. you might want to look that up, i know they were working with using 2uz's and i think 3uz's and putting 1uz heads on there because it was so easy to work with I.E porting/polishing, and they were cheap. soo...if someone REALLY wanted to supercharge the first gen that way, i think they would just need to figure out the head swapping situation and then have to come up with the money for the supercharger haha. even with all that, you still have that problem with the automatic. most REAL drifters, they dont have automatics. thats a whole notha ball game.

Yes heads are interchangeable, but the intake manifold isnt.

The newer intake manifolds sits a bit higher then the 1UZ's and fitting a supercharger on top of a 3UZ will make it taller, hence will not fit under the hood of a 1st gen. LS.

If I were this guy, I would just do a single turbo and boost the hell out of the motor....go dorifto :laugh:

firelizard

02-10-2006, 02:49 PM

Are you thinking of the Verossa?

Yep that's the one. I remember thinking it looked like a big ugly baby whale. It drifted like one too :uglystupid2:

Caoboy

02-10-2006, 11:00 PM

Yep that's the one. I remember thinking it looked like a big ugly baby whale. It drifted like one too :uglystupid2:

go watch saisoku. you will see how 'crappy' they are. theyre pretty awesome. alot better than a protoge!

viplife

02-11-2006, 05:05 PM

video of (3) 4 door sedan's drifting.

http://www.buckaloose.com/temp/street_drift.wmv

ill post the video of a verosa drifting later.

TLontheDL

02-11-2006, 07:07 PM

I wonder if there are members on a benz/bemer forum asking if there is anybody drifting a S-class and/or 7 series?

Nahhh! nobody is that crazy to ask such a silly question. ???

username

02-12-2006, 09:22 PM

I wonder if there are members on a benz/bemer forum asking if there is anybody drifting a S-class and/or 7 series?

Nahhh! nobody is that crazy to ask such a silly question. ???

they're too scared to drift their luxury or just dont know how.

Caoboy

02-13-2006, 12:43 AM

they're too scared to drift their luxury or just dont know how.

not true....the europeans are crazy drivers. there was a video floating around zilvia i think, of a guy drifting an m3 hatch (looked like a z3 but was an M3 go figure) and was doing it in the middle of the city. the guy was crazy.those people drive their cars pretty crazy too...

NOM15

02-13-2006, 09:16 AM

not true....the europeans are crazy drivers. there was a video floating around zilvia i think, of a guy drifting an m3 hatch (looked like a z3 but was an M3 go figure) and was doing it in the middle of the city. the guy was crazy.those people drive their cars pretty crazy too...

I think you're talking about the latest Ghostrider movie (or a trailer of that particular DVD). Someone in a BMW M Coupe (yeh that's what it's called)
was doing some proper drifting while being "chased" by Mr. Ghostrider? (dressed as a cop on a police bike). Obviously everything was set up,
with cameras all over the place etc. Kinda entertaining though :idiot2:

As for drifting huge sedans... I think I've seen a video of some Aristos doing a bit of drifting ???. Can't remember where or when :-\

firelizard

02-13-2006, 09:18 AM

go watch saisoku. you will see how 'crappy' they are. theyre pretty awesome. alot better than a protoge!

Do you have a link do it?
I saw the Verosa in a D1 comp, it didn't fare well, but that was the only time I saw one drifting.
Lots of things are better than a Protege. :idiot2:

Brandicus

02-14-2006, 11:04 AM

good luck with that......

:crazy2:

UTA LS

02-14-2006, 03:14 PM

I hope he gets in a horrible accident but walks away alive to see his car burn to the ground. Idiots shouldn't be allowed to modify cars.

Caoboy

02-15-2006, 09:51 AM

Do you have a link do it?
I saw the Verosa in a D1 comp, it didn't fare well, but that was the only time I saw one drifting.
Lots of things are better than a Protege. :idiot2:

you have to buy it kid. its pretty cool, they dont have any vip segments though.

firelizard

02-15-2006, 02:59 PM

Oh okay, I'll look for it.
btw, if I can find the clip of the Verosa I have, and post it. I'm pretty sure it's the same car JDMPimp posted

KumaXL

02-16-2006, 03:58 PM

I dunno, I personally think that a "Drift" LS would be kinda neet. But I think I would get hard over the challenge more than I would over the out come. ;)

One Ton VIP

02-16-2006, 04:37 PM

good luck with that......

:crazy2:

that made me spit.. cuz it made me think of the commercials for the spongebob squarepants movie where the bad guy goes "I will rule the world!" and spongebob replies... "well, good luck with that."

young gun

02-16-2006, 07:00 PM

video of (3) 4 door sedan's drifting.

http://www.buckaloose.com/temp/street_drift.wmv

ill post the video of a verosa drifting later.

is it just me or is the lead car an auto?

Brandicus

02-17-2006, 08:10 AM

that made me spit.. cuz it made me think of the commercials for the spongebob squarepants movie where the bad guy goes "I will rule the world!" and spongebob replies... "well, good luck with that."

Spongebob is awesome, but i would never admit that publicly.. ;D

drft240mayfield

02-19-2006, 06:04 AM

I think its sweet that you wanna mod a ls to drift. I love big cars that drift like the SC and GS. :crazy2:* *I have never seen an LS drift.*

Also look into the Lincoln LS. The V6 model comes in manual.

O and there are REAL DRIFTERS that drift with AUto. In D1GP there are 2 guys that drift Auto S14. O and i drift at auto hehe. :o

firelizard

02-19-2006, 05:51 PM

Pagong

02-19-2006, 07:32 PM

This thread is turning into a big ass joke. Can the mod of this section please delete this or lock it. :knuppel2:

chrisngo

02-19-2006, 09:24 PM

Well let me try to get this thread back on topic.

First off...an LS is not an ideal candidate for a drift car, in all honesty, if it was it would have been done a long time ago.

Lightening the load of the LS would be needed..removal of seats, sound deadening materials all other excess components would have to be done as well. Power will be needed since the stock motor is 8 cylinders of pure eco conservative horsepower. Let's see ... dropping in a 1J or something turbo will be ideal. Adding a Ti exhaust would also be nice.

Let's see...to compare this idea to Ueno's D1 Soarer...you would have to get into all the details he went into. Titanium bolts to replace some of the stock bolts. Removal off entire interior. CF doors and hood...dry carbon at that. Built 450hp motor.

I guess what I am trying to say is...unless you have deep pockets...and DEDICATION...the LS is not the ideal drift VIP platform.

Chris

young gun

02-19-2006, 09:28 PM

or dump in a 2jzge-t with 600hp and say screw titanium bolts for a fraction of the cost

chrisngo

02-19-2006, 09:32 PM

or dump in a 2jzge-t with 600hp and say screw titanium bolts for a fraction of the cost

Big power isn't everything. Controlling a long wheel base car with crap ass suspension and gobs of HP is easier said than done. Do you use the "power over" technique in all your drifts?

Chris

young gun

02-19-2006, 09:59 PM

no saying its ideal, but it would be fun to watch, kind of like watching a stripper fall of stage

One Ton VIP

02-20-2006, 04:18 AM

no saying its ideal, but it would be fun to watch, kind of like watching a stripper fall of stage

or a "drift LS400" crash into something

Caoboy

02-20-2006, 11:30 AM

its 2jz-gte. automatic cars suck for drifting. especially at highspeed to lowspeed transitions/viceversa. why do you think everyone that 'drifts' automatic cars are looking for 5speed swaps? haha

young gun

02-20-2006, 03:21 PM

its 2jz-gte. automatic cars suck for drifting. especially at highspeed to lowspeed transitions/viceversa.* why do you think everyone that 'drifts' automatic cars are looking for 5speed swaps? haha

who said auto?

firelizard

02-20-2006, 05:06 PM

I wouldn't want to see a half-assed drift LS, it would be embarassing...just like I don't think a stripper falling off stage is funny.
SpeedAlliance is 100% right though, it would take a lot of stripping of the car, custom one-off carbon fiber parts, careful suspension/chassis tuning, and a lot of attention to detail, because the LS has nothing in common with your average drift car besides the RWD. To put things into perspective: it took less work to convert a Paseo to RWD drift, than it would to make a competitive drifter out of an LS, due to design and weight factors. Also the lack of aftermarket support in the drift department for LSs and other big cars would make even finding parts a challenge, and expensive.

young gun

02-20-2006, 05:51 PM

ls weighs 300lbs more than a cressida and 200 less than a q45 and people drift both of those, wheres the beef?

Caoboy

02-21-2006, 12:11 AM

I think its sweet that you wanna mod a ls to drift. I love big cars that drift like the SC and GS. :crazy2: I have never seen an LS drift.

Also look into the Lincoln LS. The V6 model comes in manual.

O and there are REAL DRIFTERS that drift with AUto. In D1GP there are 2 guys that drift Auto S14. O and i drift at auto hehe. :o

this guy did.

Caoboy

02-21-2006, 12:12 AM

ls weighs 300lbs more than a cressida and 200 less than a q45 and people drift both of those, wheres the beef?

since when do people drift q45's?

Brandicus

02-21-2006, 09:18 AM

what exactly is wrong with keeping the stock motor and modding it? the 1-UZ has potential for gobs of power and its extremely reliable 8)

CharismaY33

02-21-2006, 10:28 AM

yea econo power you need ext mods to produce good numbers on the ls.

Pagong

02-21-2006, 07:34 PM

what exactly is wrong with keeping the stock motor and modding it? the 1-UZ has potential for gobs of power and its extremely reliable* 8)

EXPENSIVE! remember the guy started the thread thought the LS would be a good idea for a drift car because its cheap and RWD. But aftermarket performance for the 1UZ is far from cheap.

RASRX7

02-22-2006, 01:24 PM

Caoboy

02-22-2006, 01:32 PM

idiot. haha good ole understeer.

irax

03-21-2006, 01:57 PM

since when do people drift q45's?

I will...

MrBrightSide

03-21-2006, 08:06 PM

wow....take a look at this...wow..hhahahaha... :2funny:

http://www.youtube.com/w/Lexus%20IS300%20Doing%20Donuts?v=kV7ZMgQvJX0&eurl=

just found it on the net...

breaking up the seriousness in the post..my bad

"YOUR A STUPID DUMB FAGGOT!!!! I SHOULD KICK YOR ASS FOR THAT!!!FUCKING PATEHTIC" hahahah all the comments had me laughing :D

Brandicus

03-26-2006, 11:08 AM

that vid made my feel really good about my life hahahaha :2funny:

lowdub

03-26-2006, 02:22 PM

that has to be the crappiest donut ive ever seen....

on the LS drifter topic......the real question is, is it worth it? Just seems like a lot of work to be "different" or "unique" or even "rebelious".

Caoboy

03-27-2006, 12:41 PM

hey you should by my LS! hahah, its got 'dorifto' damage now. (JK i got hit)

the knowlo

09-25-2006, 11:17 PM

I think a ls drift machine would be sweet I have pics of one in a old drift tengoku mag.

J Stuff

09-26-2006, 10:04 AM

I say let them do it, makes what were trying to do a bit more exclusive

jun

10-02-2006, 02:06 AM

theres no celsior drift car, but theres a Crown Majesta drift car is japan, a few of them actually. celsior isn't actually toyota's flagship car either for those who this it is. its actually the toyota Crown. and if u think otherwise, maybe the toyota century.

BUT yes theres in fact a drift majesta.

illCelsior

07-26-2007, 08:07 AM

yea econo power you need ext mods to produce good numbers on the ls.

define "good" numbers? This econo power talk is funny. Sure, it's not sporting performance heads.. but, what NA motor doesn't require external modification to make more power?! I'll presume you are talking about forced induction as an External modification.

theres no celsior drift car, but theres a Crown Majesta drift car is japan, a few of them actually. celsior isn't actually toyota's flagship car either for those who this it is. its actually the toyota Crown. and if u think otherwise, maybe the toyota century.

BUT yes theres in fact a drift majesta.

Celsior is what started flagship (FQ or F1).

BrianStyles

07-26-2007, 10:17 AM

posted here before. I likes.

http://i11.tinypic.com/63aentf.jpg

http://i18.tinypic.com/4lok8ec.jpg

http://i19.tinypic.com/4kwjm2b.jpg

vip_baller250

09-14-2007, 08:51 AM

its way too big to drift imo....but all the Saudis drift their 7 series BMWs. Its up to you dude, not my car

touge whore

10-31-2007, 11:57 AM

i do it let me find my old vid at an event.

nizzan4u2nv

10-31-2007, 03:28 PM

oh god, when is this thread ever gonna die?

elpresidente

10-31-2007, 04:22 PM

oh god, when is this thread ever gonna die?
NEVARRRRRR!!!

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Had enough yet??

mdenoga

10-31-2007, 05:46 PM