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gato
09-24-2006, 08:45 PM
Hey all,

My Gs already comes with factory HID's..............

what I would like is to replace the oem look to this pic I have included.

I want to go with an HID both headlights and fogs that reflect a PINK hue. :smitten:

my question is, do I bypass the entire oem system?? and just install the new HID kit, ballast and all?

I'm assumong the ballast is what creates the kelvin temprature light output,right??? not the bulbs??

what do ya think? will look hard on a black cherry? :coolsmiley:





http://www.clublexus.com/gallery/data//500/hid.JPG

gato
09-24-2006, 08:48 PM
by the way, I still havn't found out who makes the HID kit in Pink or what Kelvin rating is that give sthe pink.

My last set of HID's where Violet in color, rare but nice.

but I have seen 2 cars in my area with pink HIDs, so I know they are out there and available.

and boy, do they light up the road :o

uncle_el
09-24-2006, 09:19 PM
hahajoey seems to be the resident h.i.d. guru here, so i'd like to think he'll be chiming in soon.* sounds like you want a different color.* generally, the crazy colors (pink, purple) are of a higher kelvin rating- 8000k to 12000k.* it's unnecessary to change the ballast as far as i understand it.* of course, there's also the point of diminishing returns, as the higher kelvin rating bulbs are not more luminous than 4100k to 6000k bulbs.

http://intellexual.net/hid.html
http://faqlight.carpassion.info/hl-hid-bulbs.htm

ceso@fd
09-24-2006, 09:51 PM
i've got the 10k with mines and came with the factory hid i jsut got the D2R replacement bulbs

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h165/most_faded/side.jpg

i think i had the flash on i dont remeber but its brighter in person

aloha03gs
09-25-2006, 07:01 AM
man you folks are crazy...6000k is enough and just right for me :)

speedaddict
09-25-2006, 11:14 AM
gato, just change the bulb man...and to tell you the truth, that actually looks like a purple color that turned out pink in the pic

efini_kid
09-25-2006, 03:40 PM
go with a 12000k temp bulb

carlos
09-25-2006, 04:55 PM
yup, as stated above, no need to swap out hte ballasts or anything. just swap the bulb. im pretty sure for your car its a d2r, and that looks like a 12k bulb.

for the foglights, you will need the whole kit which you can get on ebay for cheap.

gato
09-26-2006, 02:01 PM
Hey guys, thanks for the imput 8)

I guess this will turn out to be a pretty inexpensive mod upgrade. and the look I want :smitten:


It's funny though, I could have sworn the ballast had something to do with generating the output of how much light to distribute :idiot2:

I guess I was relating it to how what an amp is to a sound system.....I figured the ballast is what determines the power........do I make any sense :smiley6600:

carlos
09-26-2006, 02:59 PM
also, the higher the kelvin rating, the less output the lgiht will give. 4300K gives the most light output. 12000k will not give very much light output.

gato
09-27-2006, 08:11 PM
also, the higher the kelvin rating, the less output the lgiht will give. 4300K gives the most light output. 12000k will not give very much light output.


I dont get it..

I saw it again.....a red accord on those violet/pink HID's and they seemed a whole lot brighter than my stockies :idiot2:

uncle_el
09-28-2006, 05:14 AM
I dont get it..

I saw it again.....a red accord on those violet/pink HID's and they seemed a whole lot brighter than my stockies :idiot2:



http://intellexual.net/hid.html
http://faqlight.carpassion.info/hl-hid-bulbs.htm



6000K, 7000K, 15000K HID bulb scam
Many people said, "oh no, not another blue bulb!", and thought that the blue low quality bulb "scam" finally spread over to hit the real HID market in late 2001. Philips Ultinons made in Germany have equal quality, like the OEM Philips bulb, so you cant really call that product a scam.
There are other blue HID bulbs made other places in the world that can be scam products. They maybe even have the Philips or Osram name on the box, or the base, but bulbs are made or modified by someone else. Equal bulbs can also be markeded to have different color temperature. Most customers would never know if color temp was was off, as long as they are matched as a pair. Some kit and bulb suppliers advertise with 7000K and higher. This can be suspective because a lower than OEM quality bulb can have been used. No bulb OEM manufacturer makes any versions with more than ~6000K. So either it is 6000K, or the bulb might have been painted. Painting bulbs decreases brightness and in most cases decreases life. So be aware what you are buying.
As an example, look at table below, and see how blue a 9000K bulb will be! Would you honestly want it to be as blue as the sky?

Yellow:
1500 k Candlelight
2700-2900 k Yellow painted fog halogen bulbs
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Yellowish white:
3200 k Sunrise/sunset
3200 k Premium H7 non painted halogen bulb
3400 k 1 hour from dusk/dawn
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White:
4100 k Philips/Osram OEM HID D2S
5500 k Bright sunny daylight around noon
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Blueish white
5500-5600 k Electronic photo flash
6000 k Philips Ultinon HID D2S
6500-7500 k Overcast sky
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Blue:
9000-12000 k Blue sky
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Purple:
28000 Northern sky
12000-30000 k Ultra Violet light (black light)
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Above table is based on the ancient Kelvin (K) colortemp defined along time ago. Before we knew that was electro magnetic waves. At that time we only knew the temperature something had when burning. As an example, a candle light burns at around 1500K (see table above) or 2100F (Fahrenheit) or 1200C (Celsius).

Interesting! So what is actually white light?
Now that you know that light is electro magnetic waves, imagine that each base color (blue, green, yellow and red) has each wave length. White light is a balanced mix of all of them. Here is the window that are visible with human eyes:

720nm infra red - heat radiation (invisible)
660nm red
610nm yellow
550nm green
460nm blue
420nm black light
400nm ultra violet (invisible)

1nm = 0.000000001 meter

What are the results of using 6000K, 7000K, 15000K HID bulbs?
Stage 1 refers to 4100K and stage 2 normally refers to something higher value K.
As an example, a 6000K bulb in some headlamps might not show much difference at all, others will look more blue. These are observations when standing in front of the car looking into the headlights from above. After getting over the initial thrill of cooler light, many drivers have noticed that important traffic information are not as appearant as with OEM standard bulb. White traffic signs is being lit too much and can feel glaring.
During winter 2002, exponensional use of Kelvin (K) rating is used as brightness improving advertisement. Its all just big empty words. Do a search for "kelvin color temperature" on a search engine (ie: yahoo.com) and you will see that it has nothing to do with brightness and all to do with color. Going upwards from 4100K means that your light turns blue at the expense of total brightness and yellow color. Theoretically, if the same brightness were to be kept, you would have to increase the wattage of the bulb from 35 to maybe 40W, and redesign the ballast. This would be a very costly solution, so thats pretty much why all automotive HID bulbs are 35W.

carlos
09-28-2006, 05:51 AM
in other words, the higher you go, the less light output/lumens. the only difference is the color output.

zion_97
10-12-2006, 12:20 AM
No need to change the ballast unless you cant match conections and dont want to splice,,but to add to that
even 12000k is more light out put than stock halogens....I would not think brighter than stock hids but next to
stock hids you will see a more dominent color of the 12000k would produce do to a stock hid bulb would be whiter in
light color...as far as light travel the 12000k light output would die out closer in than the stock HID's cuase less lumines......

Ive got 8000k on top and 6000k on bottom...