** VIP NOOBS.LOOK!! **

[JN.FYC]

Tired of reading post.
About can this be Vip blah blah. is This Vip


"VIP car starts with just that, the platform or the car. Its not a VIP Car unless it starts with one of these cars. From Toyota, you have the Century, Celsior, Aristo, Crown, and Majesta. From Nissan you have the President, Cima, Gloria, Cedric, and the Q45."

Exceptions, i guess.* w/. Vip "STYLE"
a K-Car or Style Wagon.

:police:

Now stop asking questions about a 300C or a s13 or a s14.& other Crap.


Quote From V8 Aristo.
I think its important to read.

"I think the problem with someone trying to do VIPstyle on a non traditional platform is they don't know enough about the style to really it acheive that VIPstyle look. Sure, any one can slap on nice fitting wheels, slam the car and put a bodykit on and call it VIPstyle, but does it make it VIPstyle? Maybe or maybe not, and who is there to say that is not? If everyone did this, then VIPstyle would get lose in the translation. The style would be as meanless as "JDM", which in it's true form are nothing but original OEM parts (or cars) from Japanese that wasn't available for international consumption.

Call me a purist or elitist, just because I believe that VIPstyle belongs on certain platforms. But if nobody stands up to the real tradition of VIPstyle, then the word "VIPstyle" will be thrown around like any generic term "because it's the next coolest thing to come out of Japan". Do we really want VIPstyle to blow up and be a household word, not me if it's for the wrong reasons. I would rather get respect from the originator of the style than have a US version of VIPstyle so it will be more marketable for the US manufacturers. This is what it really boils down to, VIPstyle is the lastest trend to come out of Japan. And as with any style that comes out of Japan, alot of people want to be a part of it."

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l258/MAX_POWER5/MLE.jpg






Additional Info
About the "VIP POPE" :police:
Who the Founder is & who was one of the O.G VIP Guys.
**
Standing in the middle of a convention hall outside of Philadelphia, Takahiro Taketomi looks a bit like Bogey. His eyes are stern and focused and ringed by the charcoal hue of lost sleep. His short black hair is neat and smoothed and shines. He doesn’t smile. In fact, he speaks with a grimace and like he is always about to light a cigarette.

Taketomi is one of the self-proclaimed founders of VIP style, the next great Japanese micro-trend to surface in America. “Bippu style,” as it is colorfully known in Japan, starts with a high-power luxury sedan. The car is slammed on ultra-thin tires and trimmed with boxy body kits. At first glance, a VIP style car might look like any tuner sedan on its way to Hot Import Nights, but there are specific details that set it apart.

A VIP style car might have a billet grille or metallic trim lines or polished wood inside. Window curtains are big. So are aftermarket emblems and hood ornaments. The look is a bit like Scarface Goes to Japan. And legend has it VIP style has roots in the yakuza (organized crime in Japan). True or not, Taketomi makes a strong case on its behalf.

Through a translator, Taketomi tells us he built his first VIP style car, a Nissan Cedric, in 1993. Three years later he founded Junction Produce, which specializes in products for VIP style cars. Today it is one of the best-known marques in VIP tuning and has its brand on everything from body kits to wheels to cuff links and bracelets. Junction Produce is also the first company of its kind to make a big push into the United States.

According to Taketomi, true VIP style tuning is limited to only 10 Nissan and Toyota models: Nissan President, Cima, Gloria, Cedric and Fuga; Toyota Celsior, Century, Aristo, Crown and Majesta. That’s it. Since most of those models come with powerful turbocharged engines in Japan, VIP style cars are rarely tuned for performance. More important is that they’re slammed as low as they can go on the widest wheels possible. Most of the other tuning parts somehow assist in this goal.

VIP stylers use air suspensions to raise their cars to install the wheels and tires and then lower the car on top. Tires are stretched beyond their limits to fit on oversized wheels. Extreme offsets are used so the wheel lips kiss the fenders. And it’s not unusual to see 245/30R tires on 19x10.5-inch wheels—the tuning equivalent of Fat Albert wearing the shorts of his enunciation-challenged friend Mushmouth.

Kelvin Tohar of Falken Tires, which is helping to spread the word in America, says, “It’s not the safest thing to do and Falken doesn’t recommend you do it for daily driving, but it’s the style.” Falken has partnered with Junction Produce to hawk its line of FR452 tires. In exchange Falken promotes Junction Produce at tuner shows and SEMA events, like the International Auto Salon, where we met Taketomi.

Tohar, who has his own VIP style Lexus GS 300 that he calls by its Japanese moniker Aristo, tells me elegance is the underlying statement. “At car shows, most [owners] won’t raise their hoods because it disrupts the flow of the car,” he says. “Even the Junction Produce exhaust is more of an aesthetic.”

Elegance is the word that’s repeated like a mantra by VIP style owners and companies. But it’s a strange sort of elegance. VIP style companies like Junction Produce, Wald and Auto Couture have logos that look vaguely Oxford Street but are more a Japanese version of mafia royalty, without any ironic subtext, like you’d imagine the parts delivered in purple velvet bags, à la Crown Royal.

And the parts aren’t cheap. Outfitting a car VIP style can run up to $20,000 and beyond. But as Tony Montana says in Scarface, “You gotta make the money first. Then when you get the money, you get the power. Then when you get the power, then you get the women.”[/font]

[Wald GS]

Tired of reading post.
About can this be Vip blah blah. is This Vip


"VIP car starts with just that, the platform or the car. Its not a VIP Car unless it starts with one of these cars. From Toyota, you have the Century, Celsior, Aristo, Crown, and Majesta. From Nissan you have the President, Cima, Gloria, Cedric, and the Q45."

Exceptions, i guess
a K-Car or Style Wagon.

:police:

Now stop asking questions about a 300C or a s13 or a s14.& other Crap.
Holy damn.


Thanks I just stickied it!!

[JN.FYC]

Thank you. ;D

[dvp]

Tired of reading post.
About can this be Vip blah blah. is This Vip

:police:

Now stop asking questions about a 300C or a s13 or a s14.& other Crap.
Holy damn.


werd lol :knuppel2:

D.

[clearstar society]

It may just be me, but I feel that I was fortunate to be on the inside looking out.

As much as we would really like to keep it true to what the Japanese have started, we don't have that luxury :(

We have 4 "true "platforms 8) with various generations..thank science for that :D


Maybe we should have a stickied thread on what the "True VIP" platforms are.


Thoughts VSC members?

I would really love to hear feedback on this. Obviously, this wouldn't be for the senior members, but the new members :angel:

[elpresidente]

I agree with johnny, thing change to much to be that closed mind. I disagree on only Japan chassis. US is limited.

[JN.FYC]

Then that wouldn't be VIP.

[mdenoga]

"VIP car starts with just that, the platform or the car. Its not a VIP Car unless it starts with one of these cars. From Toyota, you have the Century, Celsior, Aristo, Crown, and Majesta. From Nissan you have the President, Cima, Gloria, Cedric, and the Q45."


hey BoOsty what do you mean by "Century, President, Gloria, Crown, etc"... I never heard of these before. :p :dance: Are they available in the US? :smiley:

i think we should sticky the platforms and write up the equivalent in the US if applicable. there should be a previous thread with all this info.

[JN.FYC]

do you want me to answer that?.
lol

[hahajoey]

that's always been the argument no??

but think of it this way..

near stock let's say 95 q45. with maybe a few knick knack mods..
so u got a VIP platform with a few mods like drop.. maybe a set of used wheels..

vs...
lets say a new k-car.. like a scion xb... with new aggressive fitting wheels.. a lip kit of
some kind, maybe coilover/airride..

the kcar overall spent more, got better shit for the car as well.. but since it's not a
TRUE platform, then it falls short of being VIP? even though the q45's value is
less than 1/2 of msrp for the xb?

i mean.. i dunno.. i just know i like good fitting wheels on cars..
and weather that be called JDM.. VIP.. XYZ. or DUB.. it don't matter..
i know what i like when i see it..

[Brandicus]

that's always been the argument no??

but think of it this way..

near stock let's say 95 q45. with maybe a few knick knack mods..
so u got a VIP platform with a few mods like drop.. maybe a set of used wheels..

vs...
lets say a new k-car.. like a scion xb... with new aggressive fitting wheels.. a lip kit of
some kind, maybe coilover/airride..

the kcar overall spent more, got better s*** for the car as well.. but since it's not a
TRUE platform, then it falls short of being VIP? even though the q45's value is
less than 1/2 of msrp for the xb?

i mean.. i dunno.. i just know i like good fitting wheels on cars..
and weather that be called JDM.. VIP.. XYZ. or DUB.. it don't matter..
i know what i like when i see it..


i dont think its like that, if it were all about price of the car then some rolls or bently would take the prize for most vip right? its about keeping with the traditions and knowing the difference between the new and old styles

[V8_Aristo]

Show me a nice VIPstyled car and I'll say it's a nice VIPstyled car.

What is the difference between a true platfom and something to make it look that way. The problem is I haven't seen any nice VIPstyled car, aside from the other platforms they use in Japan (Xb, Fit, Previa, ect.)

Personally I would like to see some other cars VIPstyled, but nobody has come up with it.

[firelizard]

Personally I would like to see some other cars VIPstyled, but nobody has come up with it.

Usually it's a matter of "if you can afford a Lexus or Infiniti in the first place, you can afford a set of rims and some suspension and body goodies" I think.
It's the Scion crowd that I'd credit for bringing Vip influence to the "alternative" market in North America, and the Indonesian community for applying Vippish cues to just about anything.

I don't have the cash to get a nice set of wheels and air suspension on my car right now. If I had that kind of money I probably would have just gotten a more luxurious car in the first place...I believe this is the situation of many others, the ones asking "I'm gonna Vip my Corolla, how about these new Motegis?".

Solution is simply more eddication, so people can know what made Vip and continues to distinguish it. It's not just a look, it's a way of life, and if you can't do it yet, might as well learn in the meantime.

[hahajoey]

ahh..

yes.. indeed..

i like cars that look good..
to me its all about the stance.. the height.. the ways the tires fit on..
the ways the wheel look.. how flush it is.. how much or little camber..

any cheese on the car? like euro taillights.. or lite-up windsheild squirters?

those are the things that make/break a car in my book. but thats just my opinion..
and yes. i do like to see more VIP inspired/styled/looking/simular to/as-seen-on-tv
looking cars.. wether it be a rally car wrx or a honda fit.. i like all kinds of cars

[UrbanTacticz]

you know what i think?

all usa cars are VIP STYLE

if you build a car with authentic parts and not knockoffs, you like your car, you enjoy cars in general, bottom line, you are a car enthusiast. isn't that what it is about at the end of the day? who cares about the technicalities of vip, bippu, exe, dub, kstyle, whatever-the-f***

it's all about going against the norm and bringing out your own style or a style that better suits your platform. things like this are what invent new styles for mainstream society. case i point: DONK STYLE

sure, i'm not a fan of the style itself, but someone went against the grain and now its a real style that is recognized by our industry and abroad.

case closed :o

[MAX_POWERS]

Bootsy and the VIP :police: will probally not like this article in Modified Luxury & Exotics. I think Cadillac, Lincolns, Crown Vics, and 300s can make good USDM vip style cars.
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l258/MAX_POWER5/MLE.jpg

[V8_Aristo]

So I guess the have a new name for it now "Auto Luxury" ::)

Atleast they didn't call it VIPcar or VIPstyle.

[JN.FYC]

:'(

[username]

:'(

don't be sad, now you can be part of AUTO LUXURY with your dream car which is Vip Influenced Camry! :2funny:

[JN.FYC]

:2funny:
LOL.

No Camry.

Im all about Tradition .
The True Vip. ;D

[Bippu_Ten]

hhmmm.. very debatable

[MS9]

why not just create a new section in this forum for strictly true traditional VIP platform "VIPCARs"....

topics outside of that section would basically be everything VIP including other cars that are "vipstyled"..

i see that there is a lexus, nissan, etc, section ... but that isn't very specific to true traditional VIPCAR platforms.. eg. an IS300 could pop in the lexus section. even a nissan sentra in the nissan section..

i just think it could be more organized to show that traditional VIPCARs can be grouped and stand out away from cars that are vipstyled.. not saying that the other cars are bad.. they just were not there in the beginning.. maybe one day new cars will be accepted and make there way into that section.. which depends on the acceptance from the community/ clubs.. like {-.-} has mentioned in the past

[firelizard]

Auto Luxury...works for me. Should help seperate the Vip cars from the Vip inspired.

[JN.FYC]

Auto Luxury...works for me. Should help seperate the Vip cars from the Vip inspired.


sounds good.

[allstar]

i had some vip tacos tonight with a side of vipstyled rice.
oh and some exe cookies.

mmm... cookies.

[JN.FYC]

i had some Exe Pho.
;D

[shawnthemonster]

ill still argue about the wagons and k-cars.... their called vip wagons and k-vip for a reason. base their just normal but when modified correctly they become vip. true that their not a true vip platform but in my "VIP wagon" magazine ive never heard them call anything in their vip styled.... or wouldnt it be called vip STYLED wagon?

[Jonny G.]

i'm not flaming or anything just a question out of curiosity... BoOsty, i remember when you first signed up you were all about VIP Styling a 2002 Camry, whatever happened to that? finally see the light eh? ;D

[{-.-}]

BoOsty, i remember when you first signed up you were all about VIP Styling a 2002 Camry, whatever happened to that?* finally see the light eh?* *;D


Cant beat them join them.......... VIPcars Gotta Play.


Sure anyone can give you a thumbs up BUT when it comes from a Gangster " Baller " VIPcar guy it means alot.

LOOK at the VIP meet in So. Cali last week......... some of the Newer VIPcar owners I KNOW FOR A FACT were happy as hell to be around those that have been doing it for awhile and having thier car accepted in the group.

And

There were others who have BADASS cars that didnt think there car was ready to be in a magazine........... wow and when it does go on there BAM HERE IT IS. I cant wait!!

[JN.FYC]

i'm not flaming or anything just a question out of curiosity...* BoOsty, i remember when you first signed up you were all about VIP Styling a 2002 Camry, whatever happened to that?* finally see the light eh?* *;D


duh.
i saw the light. :angel:

[firelizard]

What are you driving now anyways? Haven't had any updates

[JN.FYC]

Im driving a Beach cruiser i built 8)
;D

[firelizard]

Pics? I like bikes.

[username]

don't to forget to mention your bicycle wheel spinners (http://www.deuce-usa.com/home2.php)

[firelizard]

don't to forget to mention your bicycle wheel spinners (http://www.deuce-usa.com/home2.php)

wow, those are lame on so many levels...

[BlackCamry]

Tired of reading post.
About can this be Vip blah blah. is This Vip


"VIP car starts with just that, the platform or the car. Its not a VIP Car unless it starts with one of these cars. From Toyota, you have the Century, Celsior, Aristo, Crown, and Majesta. From Nissan you have the President, Cima, Gloria, Cedric, and the Q45."

Exceptions, i guess.* w/. Vip "STYLE"
a K-Car or Style Wagon.

:police:

Now stop asking questions about a 300C or a s13 or a s14.& other Crap.



I owned a Toyota Camry (Asian Spec), so can it be a VIP?

[username]

no.
it can be style like one.

[BlackCamry]

no.
it can be style like one.


Well, I'm planning to style it as VIP.

There's less VIP STYLEd car in Brunei. So Far I only found one Black LS with VIP STLYE. Sorry no pics for the LS. Might take a pic if I sees it again.

[hipermax_d]

don't to forget to mention your bicycle wheel spinners (http://www.deuce-usa.com/home2.php)


oh my lord hahahaha :2funny: :2funny: :2funny:
what is the world coming to?

[username]

yes its lame but what can you say.. its on bootsy's beach cruiser with this accessory (http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/1035/536003qd8.jpg).
its like hood bonnet or fusa for him.

[JN.FYC]

yes its lame but what can you say.. its on bootsy's beach cruiser with this accessory (http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/1035/536003qd8.jpg).
its like hood bonnet or fusa for him.



Do you wanna die? :knuppel2:

[username]

Do you wanna die? :knuppel2:

:2funny: :2funny: :2funny: :2funny:

[japchef]

So whats up. bootsy you really got a beach cruiser or not? any pix??? im big into bikes! i wanna see what cha got.

[boost_me]

Yeah boosty show us your cruiser :o

[jtanoyo1]

GUYS!!!!!!

It's so SIMPLE, REALLY. If you had to ask us, or if you had to convince yourself and everybody else, then YOU and YOUR CAR are not VIP.

It's really that simple....

Ok, what I really meant to say is this: if you take a look at your car or anyone's car and the first sentence that flashed in your head is "Hmm, is that VIP?" then chances are it's not. REALLY. If your mind tells you "Well, it's kinda drift, it's kinda Euro, it's kinda DUB, it's kinda whatever...", then it's not VIP. Geddit!?!??!

[BlackCamry]

Do you wanna die? :knuppel2:



kill kill kill die die die :knuppel2: :knuppel2:

[polish pete]

well you know everyone can agree that the acura rl is a vip platform even though withs its cons. :)

[JN.FYC]

No its not a Vip Platform.

[polish pete]

ok i understand but why, because YOU say so.

[JN.FYC]

exactly

[mdenoga]

GUYS!!!!!!

It's so SIMPLE, REALLY.* If you had to ask us, or if you had to convince yourself and everybody else, then YOU and YOUR CAR are not VIP.

It's really that simple....

Ok, what I really meant to say is this: if you take a look at your car or anyone's car and the first sentence that flashed in your head is "Hmm, is that VIP?" then chances are it's not.* REALLY.* If your mind tells you "Well, it's kinda drift, it's kinda Euro, it's kinda DUB, it's kinda whatever...", then it's not VIP.* Geddit!?!??!


word... :police:

[polish pete]

exactly


well in that case i believe my car is a vip platform

[TrueslideXL]

well in that case i believe my car is a vip platform

Such small displacement engines and the FWD are completely disambiguous to VIP. Read up some more.

[boost_me]

You may think your car is a VIP platform but I can garentee if you opened a new thread asking if your Acura was a True VIP platform, Every real member on this board would say somthing like " Not at all" or "No but it looks good", Sorry but I agree with Boosty, What he has posted at the start of this thread are the Original True VIP platforms, And for some unknown reason he hasn't posted up ACURA???? :2funny: :2funny: :2funny:

[polish pete]

well i understand its fwd and a v6. but those 4 liter lexus v8 engines arent that much bigger either. i know what is the so called true vip platform the traditional v8 and rwd. but i find it dumb that just because someone says its not vip automatically goes. people cant tell the difference in a rwd car and fwd car just by looking at it.

[boost_me]

They can if they know what their looking at 8)

[V8_Aristo]

well i understand its fwd and a v6. but those 4 liter lexus v8 engines arent that much bigger either. i know what is the so called true vip platform the traditional v8 and rwd. but i find it dumb that just because someone says its not vip automatically goes. people cant tell the difference in a rwd car and fwd car just by looking at it.


Why don't you just build your RL the way you see fit? Why do you need us to validate that your car is part of the traditional platforms? Show us how VIP is done, since it seems that you have a better grasp of what should and should not be included.

I'll be expecting some updates in a few month, sounds fine with you?

[polish pete]

sounds good. its winter so this is the time to store some money. there will be updates in the spring.

[firelizard]

Why do you want your RL to be considered a Vip platform so bad?
It's not, deal with it.
I'm not a basketball player but I can still shoot hoops with friends.
Just do your car, use Vip influence as much as you like, and you'll end up with a nice Acura RL - that should be enough

[polish pete]

yea i know thats what im going to do. i understand that those cars are used the most for a true vip platform, just what pisses me off is that just cuz some guy on the internet tells me what my car is and isnt. seriously no one really knows what the true platforms are. there is no vip pope.

[JN.FYC]

yea i know thats what im going to do. i understand that those cars are used the most for a true vip platform, just what pisses me off is that just cuz some guy on the internet tells me what my car is and isnt. seriously no one really knows what the true platforms are. there is no vip pope.




if you really want to know, go buy yourself a Ticket to japan
find a translator and find out what the true platform is.
Now if you dont like it.
Then modify your Car to your own taste.
Nobody forced you to believe what we said...
& are you sure there isnt a Vip Pope? ???

[V8_Aristo]

yea i know thats what im going to do. i understand that those cars are used the most for a true vip platform, just what pisses me off is that just cuz some guy on the internet tells me what my car is and isnt. seriously no one really knows what the true platforms are. there is no vip pope.


Will the president of Junction Produce qualify as an authority? He is regarded in Japan as one of the founders of VIPstyle and has the respect of a lot of people and manufacturers.

http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/arti...E/60428006/1029


Standing in the middle of a convention hall outside of Philadelphia, Takahiro Taketomi looks a bit like Bogey. His eyes are stern and focused and ringed by the charcoal hue of lost sleep. His short black hair is neat and smoothed and shines. He doesn’t smile. In fact, he speaks with a grimace and like he is always about to light a cigarette.

Taketomi is one of the self-proclaimed founders of VIP style, the next great Japanese micro-trend to surface in America. “Bippu style,” as it is colorfully known in Japan, starts with a high-power luxury sedan. The car is slammed on ultra-thin tires and trimmed with boxy body kits. At first glance, a VIP style car might look like any tuner sedan on its way to Hot Import Nights, but there are specific details that set it apart.

A VIP style car might have a billet grille or metallic trim lines or polished wood inside. Window curtains are big. So are aftermarket emblems and hood ornaments. The look is a bit like Scarface Goes to Japan. And legend has it VIP style has roots in the yakuza (organized crime in Japan). True or not, Taketomi makes a strong case on its behalf.

Through a translator, Taketomi tells us he built his first VIP style car, a Nissan Cedric, in 1993. Three years later he founded Junction Produce, which specializes in products for VIP style cars. Today it is one of the best-known marques in VIP tuning and has its brand on everything from body kits to wheels to cuff links and bracelets. Junction Produce is also the first company of its kind to make a big push into the United States.

According to Taketomi, true VIP style tuning is limited to only 10 Nissan and Toyota models: Nissan President, Cima, Gloria, Cedric and Fuga; Toyota Celsior, Century, Aristo, Crown and Majesta. That’s it. Since most of those models come with powerful turbocharged engines in Japan, VIP style cars are rarely tuned for performance. More important is that they’re slammed as low as they can go on the widest wheels possible. Most of the other tuning parts somehow assist in this goal.

VIP stylers use air suspensions to raise their cars to install the wheels and tires and then lower the car on top. Tires are stretched beyond their limits to fit on oversized wheels. Extreme offsets are used so the wheel lips kiss the fenders. And it’s not unusual to see 245/30R tires on 19x10.5-inch wheels—the tuning equivalent of Fat Albert wearing the shorts of his enunciation-challenged friend Mushmouth.

Kelvin Tohar of Falken Tires, which is helping to spread the word in America, says, “It’s not the safest thing to do and Falken doesn’t recommend you do it for daily driving, but it’s the style.” Falken has partnered with Junction Produce to hawk its line of FR452 tires. In exchange Falken promotes Junction Produce at tuner shows and SEMA events, like the International Auto Salon, where we met Taketomi.

Tohar, who has his own VIP style Lexus GS 300 that he calls by its Japanese moniker Aristo, tells me elegance is the underlying statement. “At car shows, most [owners] won’t raise their hoods because it disrupts the flow of the car,” he says. “Even the Junction Produce exhaust is more of an aesthetic.”

Elegance is the word that’s repeated like a mantra by VIP style owners and companies. But it’s a strange sort of elegance. VIP style companies like Junction Produce, Wald and Auto Couture have logos that look vaguely Oxford Street but are more a Japanese version of mafia royalty, without any ironic subtext, like you’d imagine the parts delivered in purple velvet bags, à la Crown Royal.

And the parts aren’t cheap. Outfitting a car VIP style can run up to $20,000 and beyond. But as Tony Montana says in Scarface, “You gotta make the money first. Then when you get the money, you get the power. Then when you get the power, then you get the women.”

[JN.FYC]

Theres your VIP POPE.

Takahiro Taketomi :police:

[polish pete]

ok see now what you say is justified. actually why dony you take that article and use it in your original post. i just dont like when some random guy starts to tell people yea this is what i say goes. now when one of the people who pretty much founded vip then i would understand. oh yea thanks for the article it was a good read.

[JN.FYC]

ok see now what you say is justified. actually why dony you take that article and use it in your original post. i just dont like when some random guy starts to tell people yea this is what i say goes. now when one of the people who pretty much founded vip then i would understand. oh yea thanks for the article it was a good read.


I made the post & no i did not Tell people how the stuff went.
i Read & researched and posted up my info.
Btw more Info on the Front. Give you guys a Better perspective & V8 i took some of your stuff, if you dont mind.

[V8_Aristo]

I made the post & no i did not Tell people how the stuff went.
i Read & researched and posted up my info.
Btw more Info on the Front. Give you guys a Better perspective & V8 i took some of your stuff, if you dont mind.


:2funny: Now all those non traditional platform guys are going to come after me :2funny:

[EvilRB]

Will the president of Junction Produce qualify as an authority? He is regarded in Japan as one of the founders of VIPstyle and has the respect of a lot of people and manufacturers.

http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/arti...E/60428006/1029


Standing in the middle of a convention hall outside of Philadelphia, Takahiro Taketomi looks a bit like Bogey. His eyes are stern and focused and ringed by the charcoal hue of lost sleep. His short black hair is neat and smoothed and shines. He doesn’t smile. In fact, he speaks with a grimace and like he is always about to light a cigarette.

Taketomi is one of the self-proclaimed founders of VIP style, the next great Japanese micro-trend to surface in America. “Bippu style,” as it is colorfully known in Japan, starts with a high-power luxury sedan. The car is slammed on ultra-thin tires and trimmed with boxy body kits. At first glance, a VIP style car might look like any tuner sedan on its way to Hot Import Nights, but there are specific details that set it apart.

A VIP style car might have a billet grille or metallic trim lines or polished wood inside. Window curtains are big. So are aftermarket emblems and hood ornaments. The look is a bit like Scarface Goes to Japan. And legend has it VIP style has roots in the yakuza (organized crime in Japan). True or not, Taketomi makes a strong case on its behalf.

Through a translator, Taketomi tells us he built his first VIP style car, a Nissan Cedric, in 1993. Three years later he founded Junction Produce, which specializes in products for VIP style cars. Today it is one of the best-known marques in VIP tuning and has its brand on everything from body kits to wheels to cuff links and bracelets. Junction Produce is also the first company of its kind to make a big push into the United States.

According to Taketomi, true VIP style tuning is limited to only 10 Nissan and Toyota models: Nissan President, Cima, Gloria, Cedric and Fuga; Toyota Celsior, Century, Aristo, Crown and Majesta. That’s it. Since most of those models come with powerful turbocharged engines in Japan, VIP style cars are rarely tuned for performance. More important is that they’re slammed as low as they can go on the widest wheels possible. Most of the other tuning parts somehow assist in this goal.

VIP stylers use air suspensions to raise their cars to install the wheels and tires and then lower the car on top. Tires are stretched beyond their limits to fit on oversized wheels. Extreme offsets are used so the wheel lips kiss the fenders. And it’s not unusual to see 245/30R tires on 19x10.5-inch wheels—the tuning equivalent of Fat Albert wearing the shorts of his enunciation-challenged friend Mushmouth.

Kelvin Tohar of Falken Tires, which is helping to spread the word in America, says, “It’s not the safest thing to do and Falken doesn’t recommend you do it for daily driving, but it’s the style.” Falken has partnered with Junction Produce to hawk its line of FR452 tires. In exchange Falken promotes Junction Produce at tuner shows and SEMA events, like the International Auto Salon, where we met Taketomi.

Tohar, who has his own VIP style Lexus GS 300 that he calls by its Japanese moniker Aristo, tells me elegance is the underlying statement. “At car shows, most [owners] won’t raise their hoods because it disrupts the flow of the car,” he says. “Even the Junction Produce exhaust is more of an aesthetic.”

Elegance is the word that’s repeated like a mantra by VIP style owners and companies. But it’s a strange sort of elegance. VIP style companies like Junction Produce, Wald and Auto Couture have logos that look vaguely Oxford Street but are more a Japanese version of mafia royalty, without any ironic subtext, like you’d imagine the parts delivered in purple velvet bags, à la Crown Royal.

And the parts aren’t cheap. Outfitting a car VIP style can run up to $20,000 and beyond. But as Tony Montana says in Scarface, “You gotta make the money first. Then when you get the money, you get the power. Then when you get the power, then you get the women.”



I know this might be a stupid question but this might be boader lined. I have a GZ20 Toyota Soarer (yes true JDM RHD), is that consider VIP? I would say yes but it's a coupe but Diana has a kit for it, I'm still looking for others. let me know your opnion

Heres a link to my Soarer:
http://vipstylecars.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3707

I've had people tell me yes mostly but what ever the answer I'm still gonna try, :thumbsup:

[EvilRB]

I like to totally insult noobs

Wait what!!??!! what do you mean i'm just asking an opinon, whats wrong with that. the car is JDM, twin turbo RWD and a Toyota. only thing is that it's a 2 door. most people that I've talked to say that the Soarer would be considerd VIP but i just wanted to see what everyone thought. Whats with the hostle responce. I'm a Noob to this site and to VIP and this is a Noob thread.

BTW thanks for trying to help on Zilvia:thumbsup: I hope i can still get those wheels

[Yokotas13]

still man, you quote the paragraph that says what is VIP
VIP style maybe

but never VIP
my shit aint VIP
its not on the list

but its VIP Style inspired

[Brandicus]

evilRB,

I can certainly appreciate that your trying to do something different (hell that soarer is SICK!) but I think what yokotas is trying to say is that your trying to modify your car in vip style, but not vip.. see the difference? :rolleyes: a vip STYLE car can be anything, but if you want your car to be vip it has to be one of those nissans or toyotas listed above. Its a technicallity yes but it certainly pulls weight around here.

[elpresidente]

Its a technicallity yes but it certainly pulls weight around here.Negative, it only pulls weight with certain members..don't include me and others in your opinion. That's like saying any other car created after back then can't be constituted as a VIP Chassis. Mercedes cars ARE vip..regardless and always have been. But are they included in your little list? Through history they are...and just like history, so is this ideal. History, so get with the now and stop living in the past. Yes, there are chassis which don't quite fit..like the soarer. So I agree with you to an extent. It's the type and level of car, not just the specific chassis. Some of the people "laying down the law" haven't earned the respect to create such posts here or anywhere. Get off your high horse and realize that you're just feeding out someone elses info, not your own through any type of vast experience. Sorry, but this is just silly.

One more thing..don't get upset over what I've posted. I'm not yelling and I'm not mad. The internet is the mother of misconception.

[Yokotas13]

mercedes are EXE.

not VIP

[elpresidente]

mercedes are EXE.

not VIP
Hahahahaha! Don't make them start THAT debate!

[Brandicus]

Get off your high horse and realize that you're just feeding out someone elses info, not your own through any type of vast experience. Sorry, but this is just silly.

One more thing..don't get upset over what I've posted. I'm not yelling and I'm not mad. The internet is the mother of misconception.

Give me a break
You have your opinion and I have mine, I didn't intentionally try to pull you into it I promise, please give me the same respect with your opinions. (no one likes to be pigeon holed) I can certainly agree to disagree for now, If you want to discuss it further my aim is in my profile and my inbox is open. :smiley:

Id also like to add your a pompus ass, Its been almost a year since i posted this and you still try to lord over everyone, even before you were a mod. get a life.

[Yokotas13]

i wish i was cool and had a VIP car

[EvilRB]

Understood I'm just going to go with VIP style then, lol thanks guys!

[Gao Jian]

Understood I'm just going to go with VIP style then, lol thanks guys!

there is nothing wrong with that, make us proud!

[CEF]

after reading this thread, it makes me want to get a cedric or a crown. Those 2 cars are available in my part of the world.

[SikNLow]

I don't mean to fuel this again, and make any remarks that will flame anyone but I do feel that after being here a while, I can make atleast one statement to the fact.

"According to Taketomi, true VIP style tuning is limited to only 10 Nissan and Toyota models: Nissan President, Cima, Gloria, Cedric and Fuga; Toyota Celsior, Century, Aristo, Crown and Majesta. That’s it."

I wonder how many people truly believe that because the chassis code is the same, that they have these vehicles? I can certainly say that I have yet to see any of these vehicles mentioned driving around in the states except for the few lucky souls who have imported used ones at a greater cost than some people pay for brand new cars. I know, I know, "all you have to do is change emblems and then change headlights, taillights, interior pieces sometimes, engine parts or complete engine sometimes, short of converting to RHD and THEN they would be the same".

I don't see anywhere in that list the Q45 or M35 or M45 or any LEXUS period. But yet the most purists and elitists claim they are "VIP" if they own a vehicle that SHARE a chassis code regardless of the fact that Fousekis (the VIP Pope's accomplice at Falken) said,"With Auto Luxury, we want to bring together people who llike VIP style but don't own a traditional VIP type car. It can include just about any car FROM ANY COUNTRY and platforms ranging from subcompacts to sports cars and full size sedans....." Didi we catch the gist of that? In that staement we are being told that if it is a car OUTSIDE OF JAPAN, then it is not VIP but a candidate for Auto Luxury.

I know i'm going to get a lot of heat for this but what did you expect from a non-platformer who has listened, seen, and learned a lot from all of you?I am a product of all of you, I have grown up here VIP wise and continue to do so, to the point where I can make a statement like this. No hatred in my post, not even any ill will just questions, lots and lots of questions, but for the OG's and greater since I won't accept any BS answers that are aimed at arguing unintelligently. Debate gentlemen, intelligent debate.

P.S. I have never asked if my car was VIP, or have ever pretended it was or implied it should be, I pride myself on being a non-platformer earning the respect of the platformers.

[TransformCelsior]

A USDM LS400 is a celsior (same chasis code), The ls400 does not turn into a toyota corolla just because it is Left Left Hand Drive.

I think it all comes down to it's true luxury essence. It has to be the FLAG SHIP, it has to be large and and in charge, and at the end of the day it has to be a V8 / rear wheel drive. It kinda sucks for USDM because that leaves us with something like 4 choices to choose from, but personally I think there are many other front wheel drive/v6 cars that are very capable of executing VIP.

But a genre has to stand for something right ? it has to have birth, heritage, history, a meaning of something. In one way or another, It has to be clear that it was originated in Japan.

VIP has differentiated itself from European Tuner style, Hot Rod style, DUB style, Low Rider style, etc. The founders who originated VIP and VIP enthusiasts want to keep the boundaries clearly defined.

This statement below defines it and sets the boundaries:

"According to Taketomi, true VIP style tuning is limited to only 10 Nissan and Toyota models: Nissan President, Cima, Gloria, Cedric and Fuga; Toyota Celsior, Century, Aristo, Crown and Majesta. That’s it."


It's not the end all and be all, it just kinda hints at it's history and it's birth. At the same time people should be enouraged to step beyond the boundaries aod do their own style, just as you did with your G35, which truly does take on VIP in everyway, amazing g35! clearly the best g35 that I've seen.













I don't mean to fuel this again, and make any remarks that will flame anyone but I do feel that after being here a while, I can make atleast one statement to the fact.

"According to Taketomi, true VIP style tuning is limited to only 10 Nissan and Toyota models: Nissan President, Cima, Gloria, Cedric and Fuga; Toyota Celsior, Century, Aristo, Crown and Majesta. That’s it."

I wonder how many people truly believe that because the chassis code is the same, that they have these vehicles? I can certainly say that I have yet to see any of these vehicles mentioned driving around in the states except for the few lucky souls who have imported used ones at a greater cost than some people pay for brand new cars. I know, I know, "all you have to do is change emblems and then change headlights, taillights, interior pieces sometimes, engine parts or complete engine sometimes, short of converting to RHD and THEN they would be the same".

I don't see anywhere in that list the Q45 or M35 or M45 or any LEXUS period. But yet the most purists and elitists claim they are "VIP" if they own a vehicle that SHARE a chassis code regardless of the fact that Fousekis (the VIP Pope's accomplice at Falken) said,"With Auto Luxury, we want to bring together people who llike VIP style but don't own a traditional VIP type car. It can include just about any car FROM ANY COUNTRY and platforms ranging from subcompacts to sports cars and full size sedans....." Didi we catch the gist of that? In that staement we are being told that if it is a car OUTSIDE OF JAPAN, then it is not VIP but a candidate for Auto Luxury.

I know i'm going to get a lot of heat for this but what did you expect from a non-platformer who has listened, seen, and learned a lot from all of you?I am a product of all of you, I have grown up here VIP wise and continue to do so, to the point where I can make a statement like this. No hatred in my post, not even any ill will just questions, lots and lots of questions, but for the OG's and greater since I won't accept any BS answers that are aimed at arguing unintelligently. Debate gentlemen, intelligent debate.

P.S. I have never asked if my car was VIP, or have ever pretended it was or implied it should be, I pride myself on being a non-platformer earning the respect of the platformers.

[SikNLow]

A USDM LS400 is a celsior (same chasis code), The ls400 does not turn into a toyota corolla just because it is Left Left Hand Drive.

I think it all comes down to it's true luxury essence. It has to be the FLAG SHIP, it has to be large and and in charge, and at the end of the day it has to be a V8 / rear wheel drive. It kinda sucks for USDM because that leaves us with something like 4 choices to choose from, but personally I think there are many other front wheel drive/v6 cars that are very capable of executing VIP.

But a genre has to stand for something right ? it has to have birth, heritage, history, a meaning of something. In one way or another, It has to be clear that it was originated in Japan.


Understood, but the fact remains that the articles quoted stated nothing about a USDM LS400, it mentions the Celsior which yes, it does share chassis codes with the Lexus, but that only means they used the same chassis, and that's it. Otherwise, why would so many people have to buy so many parts and rebadge just to "convert" to a Celsior?
On another note the second quote refers to "cars from other countries" which includes the US market, so that explicitly and implicitly refers to USDM vehicles, as non VIP, period. The LS400 obviously doesn't turn into a Corolla because of the LHD issue, but an LS400, by the same right, does not turn into a Celsior... just because of a chassis code either. :shrug:
But a genre has to stand for something right ? it has to have birth, heritage, history, a meaning of something. In one way or another, It has to be clear that it was originated in Japan.
....and is endemic to Japan solely, and waterdowned to the US due to no platform vehicles being available here at all.

[TransformCelsior]

technically your totally right but aside from the name and Right Hand Drive, they are basically the same cars.

(oh and btw, I just edited my last posting in case u want to read it.)

Understood, but the fact remains that the articles qquoted stated nothing about a USDM LS400 it mentions the Celsior which yes it does share chassis codes with the Lexus but that only means they used the same chassis, and that's it. On another note the second quote refers to "cars from other countries" which includes the US market, so that explicitly and implicitly refers to USDM vehicles as non VIP period. The LS400 obviously does't turn into a corolla because of the LHD issue, but a LS400 by the same right does not turn into a Celsior just because of a chassis code either. :shrug:

[SikNLow]

i just did too hahahahah great minds think alike hahahaha

anyways thanks!!! but back to the subject at hand, my chassis code is shared with the skylline in Japan does that mean that if I rebadge it I now have a true Skyline? or do I have a G35 badged as a Skyline? But aren't they the same by the rationale used by most here?

Sadly no. I am in the process of rebadging my ride to say Skyline and Nissan, from the airbag cover on the steering wheel, to the dash clock and door sills. I won't have a Skyline really since I would need to swap engines for the more powerful version offered there, but it will "LOOK" like one!

[firelizard]

Celsior and LS400 are mirror image twins.

It's more than just the same platform, like Accord vs TL

[SikNLow]

but see they don't have the same engine, Japan has better performing motor setups stock than what's offered in the US, and the badges and grille and headlights and tailights and door sills, and whatever else people buy to make their cars "LOOK" like a Celsior, and that says they are not mirror images, just similar hahaha and Accord and TL aren't the same either just ask any TL owner who wishes Accord parts fit their rides so they could have some type of support in the aftermarket world hahahahaah fixedtl can vouch for that hahaha

[zion_97]

Think about it like this..MEXICANS are from Mexico right..Well when we cross the border and become a citiizen then we are rebadged as Mxican americans..same chasis but with better health plans, better jobs, better shoes and houses.....hee hee hee...I am a rebadged Mexican and I am called and Amercan Mexican..go figure...

The only reason why JP has the Q45 and the Cima is that us americans wont pay $50000 for a nissan..we would rather buy a Infiniti..for status purposess..IF you look at a stock Cima and a Stock Q45..the Q45 has more of the elegance feel because of the leather seats but other than that IT is the same car..Just like the example above...THe JApanese folks are smart..they sell the same car in Japan for a lot less then what we buy it as a infiniti..

Thats my Dos Pesos

[SikNLow]

hahahahaah as much as appreciate the mexican analogy, it is incorrect because in this case the chaassis would be the human skeleton, while the aesthetic differences in vehicles would be similar to physical characteristics in humans like ears, nose, hair texture, eyes, and so on and so on. Yes they are similar in that they both have bones, noses, and such, but a "white" person from Russia is not the same as a "white" person from Canada, and a "black" person from Africa is not the same as a "black" person from Jamaica. yes they are all similar almost in appearance and yes they all share the same skeleton, but they are different overall. hahahahahaha latinos from Peru are not the same as latinos from Mexico ...... entiendes mendez?

[elpresidente]

omfg...where is this thread going? I'm suddenly hungry for Taco Bell or Taco Del Mar...

[SikNLow]

omfg...where is this thread going? I'm suddenly hungry for Taco Bell or Taco Del Mar...

LOL if you were in L.A. I would take you to El Tepeyac..... for a Manuel's Special! :giggity:

but alright I'll drop it with the true Japanese non-U.S. platform thing :biggthumpup:

[GrumpySteelMan]

So according to that you do NOT agree that a 2004 Acura 3.5RL counts as a VIP car?

[Yokotas13]

no not close at all

[Yokotas13]

A USDM LS400 is a celsior (same chasis code), The ls400 does not turn into a toyota corolla just because it is Left Left Hand Drive.

I think it all comes down to it's true luxury essence. It has to be the FLAG SHIP, it has to be large and and in charge, and at the end of the day it has to be a V8 / rear wheel drive. I

"According to Taketomi, true VIP style tuning is limited to only 10 Nissan and Gloria, Cedric That’s it."


I
WOWWWWW what a f**king hipocryte

too bad like damn near every gloria and cedric were v6 turbo or non turbo RWD.....sucks for your logic

[SikNLow]

So according to that you do NOT agree that a 2004 Acura 3.5RL counts as a VIP car?


Not a VIP car sorry..... VIPstyle maybe VIP never. :biggthumpup:

[elpresidente]

WOWWWWW what a f**king hipocryte

too bad like damn near every gloria and cedric were v6 turbo or non turbo RWD.....sucks for your logic
Totally...and my Vanden Plas has a huge 4.0 inline 6. With just as much punch and better gas mileage. They can have their V8's.

[allstar]

sigh jewbs.

[SikNLow]

sigh jewbs.


you might not agree with most of their comments but no need to get racial and call them jewish newbs.....:smiley-rofl:

[allstar]

youre a jewb if you dont take me to this El Tepeyac you speak of!

[SikNLow]

youre a jewb if you dont take me to this El Tepeyac you speak of!


hahahahahaha next time you in L.A. hit me up!!! just tell me ahead of time and i'll give you my cell number so you can hit me up when you get to the city of Lost A-holes

[Kuroikaze]

hahahahahaha next time you in L.A. hit me up!!! just tell me ahead of time and i'll give you my cell number so you can hit me up when you get to the city of Lost A-holes


What is comprised in this manuel's special? :biggthumpup:

[lexocruzer]

"VIP car starts with just that, the platform or the car. Its not a VIP Car unless it starts with one of these cars. From Toyota, you have the Century, Celsior, Aristo, Crown, and Majesta. From Nissan you have the President, Cima, Gloria, Cedric, and the Q45."
????????????


does this mean that if you dont have a jdm right hand drive /correct badged,car from japan
you dont consider it VIP?????????????????
because U.S. is very limited to what can be considered VIP.
if so we would be limited to ls400, gs3/400,Q45 left hand drive platforms only.



can the lexus SC be a vip platform???????????????
if not,,,,,,,,,, that leaves sc3/400 in no class ,because if it doesent fit in import/jdm/or VIP
then where does it fit?????????????????????????junk yard???????????????????

i have both a 93 lexus ls400 and a 93 sc400.
i love em both they are so close in relation,
but some people tell me the sc is not a true vip,even thought they are a VIP in japan.

if i sound stupid please just look over me, because i love these
clean platforms no matter how they are classified.

[Dominik]

Lexus SCs are COUPEs. Ignoring the limited platforms available here (and also currently in Japan), the biggest defining factor is that they are all SEDANS.

If you want a classification, the SC is a luxury sports car... not a vip car (here or in Japan). Sometimes in vipcar they have a section "2-door VIP" but its sort of like a novelty rather than a true classification

I'm not knocking the car itself, i had one (genuine Soarer) and i also think they are hot, but its just not a real vip car.

[SikNLow]

What is comprised in this manuel's special? :biggthumpup:


It is literally an 18" - 24" wet burrito with all the "fixings" that weighs about 5 lbs. - 7 lbs. and comes in a huge aluminum foil tray like the kind you would use for a small turkey hahahahahahahaha very famous and you can't pass it up if you are ever in L.A. there are many imitators but no one comes close. :biggthumpup:

[allstar]

freebirds > manuals!

[Kuroikaze]

freebirds > manuals!

They don't know about the bird, eh! lol:biggthumpup:

[Blitz]

lol

[VipDout]

Glad this page was in here ...

[Qfour5]

Hey glad to finally be in the right seen. I started out with my first car a 97 cefiro a32 (Nissan Maxima) and was trying to copy the style of a vip car and after a lot of modding slammed suspension a few sets of rims lots of power mods JDM imported and modded parts i realized that I wasn't going to be able to make it a VIP ride. so selling that off and starting fresh and for some of the other newbs stuck in waiting. before you start trying to do a VIP car right you have to do a lot of research this isn't drift and its not just modding and customizing. first thing to do would be to familiarize yourself with the cars mentioned as classic VIP platforms and then realize that most of them are offfered in the us just under different titles F50 Cima = 02-04 Q45 the toyotas name on the first page are mainly lexus just not identified by their US names this is a style routed in Japan and it will stick to its roots thats what keeps it VIP if you want to try to copy the style on another ride feel free to but you will eventually realize that with the wrong car you'll never truly reach VIP looks. maybe it will lead to the creation of a "auto luxury" class of modding and then there will still be the limited VIP

[Mr. Q]

thank god that this thread is here, it makes perfect sense. If you are in the USDM and want to go with a VIP style car, its either Infiniti or Lexus. Most of the sedans in that lineup are recognized in the JDM market as well. For Example the infiniti G35 sedan is known in japan as the Nissan Skyline 3.5 GT. The Lexus GS300 or 400 is the Toyota Aristo and so on and so on. Now is as what Dominik has stated about the SC (known as the toyota soarer in japan) think about it as a new side dish in the VIP world. Its not traditional VIP as we all want it, but it can be done with the right stuff and with the right mentality. Now about all those out there that want to use a big boy american sedan and try to call it VIP, get out of here with that, you are in the wrong place. This about keeping a profesional but low key aproach instead of riding high and making noise with train horns. I will say this, I rather prefer to see the VIP scene be a very social but limited body and being its own entity instead of being a scene that gets to out of control like the sport import scene. Simply put: lets avoid the heat and make this scene profesional, if it gets out of control, then whats the point of doing it. if it gets like that, it will be put alongside the sport import scene and we too will lose a battle that we wish we can stay away from that the sport import scene has started. I originally came from that scene and at first I enjoyed it while the fun lasted but after a while, I got tired of it and want to get away from both the scene and also the cops (I got one too many tickets already when I used to have my supra). Lets make VIP something that can be enjoyed but limited by those that know what its truelly about.

[ClutchOne]

Will the president of Junction Produce qualify as an authority? He is regarded in Japan as one of the founders of VIPstyle and has the respect of a lot of people and manufacturers.

http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/arti...E/60428006/1029
(http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/arti...E/60428006/1029</p><p>)

Standing in the middle of a convention hall outside of Philadelphia, Takahiro Taketomi looks a bit like Bogey. His eyes are stern and focused and ringed by the charcoal hue of lost sleep. His short black hair is neat and smoothed and shines. He doesn’t smile. In fact, he speaks with a grimace and like he is always about to light a cigarette.

Taketomi is one of the self-proclaimed founders of VIP style, the next great Japanese micro-trend to surface in America. “Bippu style,” as it is colorfully known in Japan, starts with a high-power luxury sedan. The car is slammed on ultra-thin tires and trimmed with boxy body kits. At first glance, a VIP style car might look like any tuner sedan on its way to Hot Import Nights, but there are specific details that set it apart.

A VIP style car might have a billet grille or metallic trim lines or polished wood inside. Window curtains are big. So are aftermarket emblems and hood ornaments. The look is a bit like Scarface Goes to Japan. And legend has it VIP style has roots in the yakuza (organized crime in Japan). True or not, Taketomi makes a strong case on its behalf.

Through a translator, Taketomi tells us he built his first VIP style car, a Nissan Cedric, in 1993. Three years later he founded Junction Produce, which specializes in products for VIP style cars. Today it is one of the best-known marques in VIP tuning and has its brand on everything from body kits to wheels to cuff links and bracelets. Junction Produce is also the first company of its kind to make a big push into the United States.

According to Taketomi, true VIP style tuning is limited to only 10 Nissan and Toyota models: Nissan President, Cima, Gloria, Cedric and Fuga; Toyota Celsior, Century, Aristo, Crown and Majesta. That’s it. Since most of those models come with powerful turbocharged engines in Japan, VIP style cars are rarely tuned for performance. More important is that they’re slammed as low as they can go on the widest wheels possible. Most of the other tuning parts somehow assist in this goal.

VIP stylers use air suspensions to raise their cars to install the wheels and tires and then lower the car on top. Tires are stretched beyond their limits to fit on oversized wheels. Extreme offsets are used so the wheel lips kiss the fenders. And it’s not unusual to see 245/30R tires on 19x10.5-inch wheels—the tuning equivalent of Fat Albert wearing the shorts of his enunciation-challenged friend Mushmouth.

Kelvin Tohar of Falken Tires, which is helping to spread the word in America, says, “It’s not the safest thing to do and Falken doesn’t recommend you do it for daily driving, but it’s the style.” Falken has partnered with Junction Produce to hawk its line of FR452 tires. In exchange Falken promotes Junction Produce at tuner shows and SEMA events, like the International Auto Salon, where we met Taketomi.

Tohar, who has his own VIP style Lexus GS 300 that he calls by its Japanese moniker Aristo, tells me elegance is the underlying statement. “At car shows, most [owners] won’t raise their hoods because it disrupts the flow of the car,” he says. “Even the Junction Produce exhaust is more of an aesthetic.”

Elegance is the word that’s repeated like a mantra by VIP style owners and companies. But it’s a strange sort of elegance. VIP style companies like Junction Produce, Wald and Auto Couture have logos that look vaguely Oxford Street but are more a Japanese version of mafia royalty, without any ironic subtext, like you’d imagine the parts delivered in purple velvet bags, à la Crown Royal.

And the parts aren’t cheap. Outfitting a car VIP style can run up to $20,000 and beyond. But as Tony Montana says in Scarface, “You gotta make the money first. Then when you get the money, you get the power. Then when you get the power, then you get the women.”

After Studying this Whole Thread.

I have Came to the Conclusion that the Main "Person" who Started this whole VIP (Bippu) Craze Need to Sit Down Happly at a Round Table and Discuss "Rules of Engagement" for Others Like Our Selves to Live by. Us Making Up Rules as we Go Along Only Starts Never Ending Arguments. Changing the Rules to Suit their Own Build.

After Studying I consider myself a Traditionalist. I Like to Watch Old VIP Videos and VIPClub.
I Subcribe to VIPCar. and Im in the Process of Building a UCF10 II. If a Picture is a Thousand Words than a VIDEO is a Million, But I Need More Guidance, More Substance. I feel as though Im Reading Comments Not Facts.

Someone Should be an Official Speaker. I would like Takahiro Taketomi to Create a "BIBLE"
Like Keiichi Tsuchiya did for Drift. Maybe even a Panel of Judges to Decide whats "VIP".
Im so Confused, a Small Message Chopped Up and Edited in a Magazine Clipping could Just
be a Marketing Scheme for more USA Buyers to turn there attention away from the Source,
The Essence, the Culture of VIP. I need to see Video of Takahiro speaking on VIP similar to the way Tatsuru Ichisima did on JDM. Please Excuse Me This is Just a Comment from Me Its Not a Fact. Im Just Up Late at Night, Still Searching, Studying, Thinking Out Loud.

John
aka
ClutchOne

[Qfour5]

john you put that very nicely. i agree with you on a lot of points but don't think we need a bible like they came up with for the drifters. maybe just a strict few rules and only a few cars can be truly vip the others can be vip styled or classified as auto luxory and some of them will come out very nice and b respected in the vip scene but only the select platforms can truly become vip and even then have to be done right.

[ClutchOne]

john you put that very nicely. i agree with you on a lot of points but don't think we need a bible like they came up with for the drifters. maybe just a strict few rules and only a few cars can be truly vip the others can be vip styled or classified as auto luxory and some of them will come out very nice and b respected in the vip scene but only the select platforms can truly become vip and even then have to be done right.

Your Right...

To be Honest, It would be Extremely hard to find Someone to Express Styling Cues on there VIPCar in Japan. I have Friends in Japan that tell me they are not the Type of Guys you just walk up to and try to Hold a Conversation about the wheel fitment on there car...The Link (http://jdmchat.com/showthread.php?t=1818)

So In the "Meantime" the Only Real Soultion would be to talk to the OG Members here on what Styling Cues can best Fit what Platform. But Beware, Most Mods here are all for change of VIP to Open Doors for More New Platforms. But Then there are "Still" Mods here that are more Traditional towards the Aspect of VIP being a Culture. All are Very Helpfull and Insightful but Its Up to you to decide who to Listen too...

[romeo291]

Your Right...

To be Honest, It would be Extremely hard to find Someone to Express Styling Cues on there VIPCar in Japan. I have Friends in Japan that tell me they are not the Type of Guys you just walk up to and try to Hold a Conversation about the wheel fitment on there car...The Link (http://jdmchat.com/showthread.php?t=1818)

So In the "Meantime" the Only Real Soultion would be to talk to the OG Members here on what Styling Cues can best Fit what Platform. But Beware, Most Mods here are all for change of VIP to Open Doors for More New Platforms. But Then there are "Still" Mods here that are more Traditional towards the Aspect of VIP being a Culture. All are Very Helpfull and Insightful but Its Up to you to decide who to Listen too...

The hardest thing for me in understanding the whole concept of Vip tuning is that the moderators themselves disagree on the true meaning of VIP, and I am getting a lot of mix messages from them. Some would argue that European cars should be in the mix, and some would argue that it is limited to 10 Japanese platforms and no other. Some say that there is no set definite rules for Vip tuning, only basic guidelines and that it continues to evolve everyday. Then some will argue that it is a traditional style of tuning that has a clear history and guidelines and doesn't require addition of new platforms or change. Then there are those that says there are new exceptions like k-cars and wagons that are considered Vip, even though it is not a traditional platform. If new platforms are accepted, then who gets to decide these things? In the community of Vip tuners worldwide, there really isn't a group of experts out there that can give Vip tuning a definite definition. I don't think any single magazine or website or person can decide this. It would have to be from a group of experts that clearly has a background in the start of Vip tuning to determine an unarguable definition of Vip.

Anyways, I doubt this will ever come to be, but I too am tire of reading all the arguments and all the noobs asking can this be vip or that. And then, even when you quote something from a credible source like Taketomi, there are people that will still disagrees with you and tell you that he's not the hearsay of what Vip is.

[elpresidente]

Honestly...you guys are thinking too much into this and searching for an end all, which will never happen. It's a style that is ever changing and evolving. Things change within it all the time. So the "unwritten rules" of older generation vip, are not the same as the current. And again, please stop saying "bippu" it's not even a word...or is it the actual way vip is spoken. You guys want accuracy..then pay attention to the current trends. I try to pay closer attention to the vip meets than any magazine. The enthusiasts are who drives the style and the manufacturers act on it to keep things flowing for them. There is no one person who heads up the whole scene...there are those who have been doing it for some time like Taketomi...but he's not the only OG. Does he deserve credit..some yes, but not all. He'd probably even tell you that, he's a cool guy. I love Junction Produce and for what they've done to help things grow...but for the US to continually leave out others is just wrong. So in the end..yes, we will be altering the stickies. John (VIPStyleCars) and I spoke briefly about it and they will be changed to keep current. I think that as newbs you need to relax and not try to make your mark right away. In due time people will recognize you in your own right...but till then, read, listen, learn. All of us are continually learning as well, because like I said..things evolve all the time. So we keep current on what is happening now. Most newbs look to see what happened in the past..or think the past is how things are supposed to be and that they haven't changed. So I think you can see what I'm trying to say...

[romeo291]

Honestly...you guys are thinking too much into this and searching for an end all, which will never happen. It's a style that is ever changing and evolving. Things change within it all the time. So the "unwritten rules" of older generation vip, are not the same as the current. And again, please stop saying "bippu" it's not even a word...or is it the actual way vip is spoken. You guys want accuracy..then pay attention to the current trends. I try to pay closer attention to the vip meets than any magazine. The enthusiasts are who drives the style and the manufacturers act on it to keep things flowing for them. There is no one person who heads up the whole scene...there are those who have been doing it for some time like Taketomi...but he's not the only OG. Does he deserve credit..some yes, but not all. He'd probably even tell you that, he's a cool guy. I love Junction Produce and for what they've done to help things grow...but for the US to continually leave out others is just wrong. So in the end..yes, we will be altering the stickies. John (VIPStyleCars) and I spoke briefly about it and they will be changed to keep current. I think that as newbs you need to relax and not try to make your mark right away. In due time people will recognize you in your own right...but till then, read, listen, learn. All of us are continually learning as well, because like I said..things evolve all the time. So we keep current on what is happening now. Most newbs look to see what happened in the past..or think the past is how things are supposed to be and that they haven't changed. So I think you can see what I'm trying to say...

Well, I understand completely what you're staying, but there are so many senior members on here and I see moderators saying things that will contradict what you just said (mainly the purists who reserve Vip tuning to only 10 platforms). Once people can come to an agreement, mainly the OG/senior members and mods, then we can be consistent as to what to tell people whenever they ask the whole "is this vip or is that Vip" question.

To me, I fully agree with you that I think Vip will probably never be clearly define and it'll continue to evolve, since this is the nature of almost every style. But as many threads as you have read and seen, you'll have to agree with me that a common ground for understanding vip tuning is in need. If this trend is evolving, and the enthusiasts who practice it determines the direction that it's going, then you're saying it's possible that ANY car can become a platform if there is a large enough number of people using it as a platform for vip tuning and the market shifts to accommodate those people. If this happens, then the style is too mainstream, American made vehicles might even someday become an accepted platform. I don't agree with this and I think there should be some clearly define rules as to what sort of vehicles can constitute as a true vip platform. I know that there are already some underlying rules on this forum that the majority of the people on here accepts, but it should at least be pointed out so that there is no confusion. Like, is it reserve to only Japanese vehicle? Is it reserve to only Japanese and European vehicles? Is it reserve to only large engine sedans or 4 door wagons and k-cars considered too? Basically, if you can just clear up these issues on the new stickies, that would be extremely helpful.

[augdogg]

There is really no point in over anaylizing what is and what isn't. People that admire the style but disapprove of suggested platforms can choose another route. Most of us here that I know enjoy the commaradary of all platforms but relate more to the basics. We can obviously share more info within the same groups which is a plus for us. Speaking generally of course. You do you and take note of my sig.:biggthumpup:

[elpresidente]

If this trend is evolving, and the enthusiasts who practice it determines the direction that it's going, then you're saying it's possible that ANY car can become a platform if there is a large enough number of people using it as a platform for vip tuning and the market shifts to accommodate those people. If this happens, then the style is too mainstream, American made vehicles might even someday become an accepted platform. I don't agree with this and I think there should be some clearly define rules as to what sort of vehicles can constitute as a true vip platform. I know that there are already some underlying rules on this forum that the majority of the people on here accepts, but it should at least be pointed out so that there is no confusion. Like, is it reserve to only Japanese vehicle? Is it reserve to only Japanese and European vehicles? Is it reserve to only large engine sedans or 4 door wagons and k-cars considered too? Basically, if you can just clear up these issues on the new stickies, that would be extremely helpful.

Kei cars...absolutely not. Wagons...no. Large engine if you're talking about 6cyl. + because many vip platforms in Japan come with either 6cyl. or 8cyl. + (since some have V12 also). What it is, is most definitely the cream of the crop cars. High end luxury cars that have been accepted by both consumers, companies, and magazines. In other words each facet of the community.

Seriously..you guys are still thinking too black and white here. The gray area is what keep things interesting. Now this gray area has basic guidlines (which IS a black and white thing) and we've all agreed on time and time again (even through our differences). Big body high end luxury SEDAN. The "10 platforms" were something that was stated by a person, not a collective and it was also stated YEARS ago. As we said, things change. Is my wife's C240 luxury model a vip car? No, but it can be vip style..it's still a 4 door luxury car, but it's not a big body. An S-Class on the other hand is most definitely a Euro vip car. So you see the difference in what I'm saying. I know you guys are just trying to get a better grasp on all of this..but really..using cars outside these means isn't going to get you very far. Many new guys are just trying to justify the car they already own as being acceptable rather than going out and getting a car that fits the bill. That's where respecting the culture comes into play.

[romeo291]

Kei cars...absolutely not. Wagons...no. Large engine if you're talking about 6cyl. + because many vip platforms in Japan come with either 6cyl. or 8cyl. + (since some have V12 also). What it is, is most definitely the cream of the crop cars. High end luxury cars that have been accepted by both consumers, companies, and magazines. In other words each facet of the community.

Seriously..you guys are still thinking too black and white here. The gray area is what keep things interesting. Now this gray area has basic guidlines (which IS a black and white thing) and we've all agreed on time and time again (even through our differences). Big body high end luxury SEDAN. The "10 platforms" were something that was stated by a person, not a collective and it was also stated YEARS ago. As we said, things change. Is my wife's C240 luxury model a vip car? No, but it can be vip style..it's still a 4 door luxury car, but it's not a big body. An S-Class on the other hand is most definitely a Euro vip car. So you see the difference in what I'm saying. I know you guys are just trying to get a better grasp on all of this..but really..using cars outside these means isn't going to get you very far. Many new guys are just trying to justify the car they already own as being acceptable rather than going out and getting a car that fits the bill. That's where respecting the culture comes into play.

How come there are so many wagons and keijidosha (if you wanna be technical) cars claiming to be vip on this forum? I mean, I've mainly been reading old threads and I see them everywhere on this forum. Don't they have a place in the market? They truly are enthusiasts that live and respect the lifestyle/culture and they've even been featured in vip magazines and the market IS shifting towards making more vip stuff for their cars. Isn't this part of the evolution you're talking about? I know you're probably gonna tell me I am thinking too much about this, but I rather be an intellectual noob then mindlessly not ask questions and accept everything I am being told. You can't just flat out tell me "No they're not" when you can't back it up with some reference that says "they can never be vip." Since you've already said that what Taketomi was quoted a few years ago doesn't apply anymore, then we can't base what you've said off that. I haven't really seen any credible reference from this site that says they can never be vip either.

I am not on here trying to defend my car, I am on here to learn about the culture and understand what it's all about before buying myself a true platform and proceed. I am trying to become knowledgeable enough about the scene I want to be in rather than become a bandwagon jumping hypebeast that's trying to do what everyone else is doing. I want to take all the information I can get and formulate my own opinion of what vip is....that's why I am over thinking stuff....and I don't mind that. All I am saying is that I can't just accept everything you say as the clear cut final answer. I am not searching for a black and white answer either, but I would like to hear the opinions of all the OG members and moderators on here about what they think vip is all about. Thats why I feel that if you're going to make new stickies, please make it so that it's a collective of opinions from people with credibility from both this forum and the industry.

[jltibbs]

does this mean that if you dont have a jdm right hand drive /correct badged,car from japan
you dont consider it VIP?????????????????
because U.S. is very limited to what can be considered VIP.
if so we would be limited to ls400, gs3/400,Q45 left hand drive platforms only.

i believe a little further in that reading you will find that the other platforms are simply considered 'VIP Style Cars'. all this means is that you are influenced by a concept and are taking your vehicle to that level. IMO, its not true VIP unless you have one of the before mentioned platforms; whether its RHD or not.

[intezza]

I agree with Boosty I'm ALL about the Tradition of VIP. I mean you wouldn't see someone like Takahiro Taketomi rolling an Accord or Maxima or something like that and calling it VIP. I'm sure he is going to stick to his platform Aristo that he owns. People may hate me for this but I personally DONT want this to blow up in North America like the Honda nissan craze, Because people end up losing site of where VIP really came from and what it's about.

[kboy]

so instead of saying im trying to go wit a vip theme id be safer saying im going for a vip style look for my xb? just asking cause i dont wanna step on any toes and/or offend anyone.

[Tito Escobar]

I agree with Boosty I'm ALL about the Tradition of VIP. I mean you wouldn't see someone like Takahiro Taketomi rolling an Accord or Maxima or something like that and calling it VIP. I'm sure he is going to stick to his platform Aristo that he owns. People may hate me for this but I personally DONT want this to blow up in North America like the Honda nissan craze, Because people end up losing site of where VIP really came from and what it's about.
Too late for that if thats your thinking. I mean everything catches on! Look at the whole JDM craze! the drift craze! people love new things! they dont like it cus of its tradition, but cus its NEW. It does help to keep tradition alive but not always do people keep that in mind. I am kept in line luckily by RacinStylez and Hoebag!

[intezza]

Dont get me wrong I know it's going to catch on just like everything else did. I'm just saying that in my opnion it would be nice if it didnt blow up like we all know it will and have all these American companies start trying mass produce a bunch of cheap knock off parts and then have a bunch of people claim they have VIP cars just so they can copy off everybody else.

[Gee3Five]

I admit I am new here but...
HIN having things like "Best VIP coupe" makes me crazy already.
I guess I am a bit of a traditionalist myself.
I am not even sure that my new GS is a VIP platform.
It seems a bit too sporty.
But I will mod it the way I like and let others put labels on it.
:biggthumpup:

[epi79]

I'm a visual person, i think we need VIP 101 with Picture in here :D

[peeche]

so.
can a terios transform to a vip style suv?
:pat:

[sileightysr20]

Thanks, this really cleared things up for me.

[K-bahn]

Agree with what i read in one of the first posts about making a distinction between VIP and Luxury Auto. Overall its a very usefull thread and the first one i went through. VIP is about standards and value and those things are not to be dilluted.

[iSuxeL]

Im just a IS350 driver looking to have a little VIP influence on my car. I know that my car isnt a VIP platform hence the "influence" Anyways Im hoping to learn a thing or two here.

[Give Me VIP]

There will always be the original OG VIP platforms. But with time it willl become like the drift scene where all you seen was 240's. So i think it's nice to see attempts at VIP style on other platforms. It's keeps the style true and from becoming something cool at the time. I don't see VIP fading away like drifting, I think it will continue to grow and will continue to become more diverse and build it's tradition.

[accordtypeR]

Wow thats pretty detail explaination..

[elegancecustomz]

Man, tha'ts some Great information!!!....
Man, thankz for posting' this for us noobs.... I gots the platform LOL

thankz
Nez

[MethodRN]

This great information! Big thanks from a VIPNOOB!!

[cellyboy]

i love this infomation but the jdm celsior 1990 also got airbags as standard where as the asdm which is aussie deliverd ls400 got coil springs as standard
but thanks for the info. i also hope this doesnt take off like drifting

[VipDout]

Werd .. hope everyone has been reading each page .Bump to the TOP

[broken_tsi]

Good info!

[onefattboy909]

tight...

[Gryder408]

Somethings change over time, hopefully we keep it in check with taste and style.

[Ubernathan]

Eventually....there will probably be:


The Fast and the Furious 5: VIP Battle


I think we all hope that day never comes.

[dropzone]

Eventually....there will probably be:


The Fast and the Furious 5: VIP Battle


I think we all hope that day never comes.

That would def be a sad day, and I'd sadly be at the theater watching it. Whenever something new arrives stateside, they gotta make a movie implementing it.

About the VIP car selection I think of the big body rwd flagship sedans from Toyota/Lexus and Nissan/Infiniti. If it's made in Japan and has a U.S. offering it's game. I keep Euro cars with Euro, Dub with Dub, so on so forth. If other cars get let into the mix then the scene gets distorted and the traditionalists lose out on what they worked to claim. The car selection might change if one car is replaced with an equivalent with another name but the replacement has to keep the purpose the same. Not included in the VIP car line up for me? Pretty much any car not made in Japan, does not have 4 doors, does not have RWD, is not a flagship car or large size, does not have a V8/or 6 cylinder engine if that is the largest offered.

[Ubernathan]

Yeah, just based on what I've heard from people and what I've been learning on this website, a lot of people don't really understand the true meaning of vip....I didn't grasp it before I started reading the threads on VSC. Previously, I thought that any big/semi-big bodied sedan could be vip, and loosely used that term to describe that sort of style. Now I realize that vip in its truest form is platform specific, and is about more than just bagging a car with big wheels and tires as wide as a camry's. I'm still learning about it, and do believe that it's always going to be including new vehicles, but the OG Celsiors and Aristos and Presidents (etc.) will always be king. I'm just hoping I can at least uphold that same sense of style on my non-vip platform KA9 to make some of the OGs say "good work, kid." This is one car style which I have to say, would be butchered if the mainstream got ahold of it...more than honda, more than street-racing, more than "JDM", and more than drifting. But I'm afraid that day is coming fast, MODS should force 101'ers to read all the stickies before being allowed to post, they cleared up my Made-in-the-USA view on vip cars.

[99v6sedan]

Hey VSC, VIP newbie member here. As controversial as it is I have decided to take my CG2 (Accord) down VIP lane. I know its not a true VIP platform by any means but the VIP style is just so clean to me so why the hell not? My car is in the early stages and I have an intro thread posted in the new member section incase anyone is interested in my future plans. I hope to become a valuble member on VSC. I am a body technician/painter so id be glad to help out anyone in that department. I am a very frequent visitor of V6Performance.net and help out alot of members over there too.

ps i must say the backwards thread function is going to take some getting used to. this is the first forum ive been on with this style.

[Ubernathan]

very nice, welcome aboard. And from your signature...I think a vip style may just work for your accord...i've never really seen someone mod an accord in the vip style, but it looks really nice in the sig. Thumbs up for being different.

Oh, and the backwards thread thing can be changed. Go to your PM box, click Edit Options on the side, and you can change how the threads are displayed. I asked that same question when I first signed on here.

[MaxBoost925]

Hey VSC, VIP newbie member here. As controversial as it is I have decided to take my CG2 (Accord) down VIP lane. I know its not a true VIP platform by any means but the VIP style is just so clean to me so why the hell not? My car is in the early stages and I have an intro thread posted in the new member section incase anyone is interested in my future plans. I hope to become a valuble member on VSC. I am a body technician/painter so id be glad to help out anyone in that department. I am a very frequent visitor of V6Performance.net and help out alot of members over there too.

ps i must say the backwards thread function is going to take some getting used to. this is the first forum ive been on with this style.

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/5896/img0644ui5.jpg

This fool is on coilovers!

VIP style can definitely be applied to your accord.

[Ubernathan]

^sickest accord evar.

[99v6sedan]

thanks max, that is one clean accord too.....

[exesc430]

After reading all of this, I think i'm in the wrong forum.

[JN.FYC]

After reading all of this, I think i'm in the wrong forum.

why is that?

[99v6sedan]

^i was wondering the same thing........

[Hitman6064]

Show me a nice VIPstyled car and I'll say it's a nice VIPstyled car.

What is the difference between a true platfom and something to make it look that way. The problem is I haven't seen any nice VIPstyled car, aside from the other platforms they use in Japan (Xb, Fit, Previa, ect.)

Personally I would like to see some other cars VIPstyled, but nobody has come up with it.

cosign on this right here

I say it like this. Not everyone has the money or time to get a true platform VIP ride. I know people will disagree with me on this one but I want to VIP"Style" a IS300. Im talking go all the way with it, curtans in the back, wood grain on the dash, everything that goes with it. I think that the vision in my mind will come true and people will be like a Luxury IS! DAMN! But hey, Here in vegas, a lot of the VIP platform cars are toe down to trash, and its a work in progress that I personally dont have the money or time for being that I have a family that I have to work hard to support, But, on the contrary to the people who do have the time to work on the vehicle of choice and spend the money on the TRUE style, DO IT. Remember, its a "style" that means that if you can adapt it and make it true to "style" DO IT. Dont fall to the standard of what it should be, make it what it is, a STYLE. I would love to OWN an M45 or even a Q but, personally have not found one that I dont have to travel to California for. So for everyone in here who might have a problem with what Im typing out, then oh well right...Ill get to where I want to be at someday and some might just say DAMN...thats a clean ass IS

[Triple8Sol]

My ride is FAR from a VIP platform, and is built as a daily driver for the Street with AutoX/Track duty. But...I just couldn't resist the sex that is Junction Produce.

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i175/triple8sol/Junction%20Produce%20Scara/2946666154_fdaba80a48_o.jpg

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i175/triple8sol/Junction%20Produce%20Scara/2937608634_c50dae0422_o.jpg

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i175/triple8sol/Junction%20Produce%20Scara/2936756575_9999d2e729_o.jpg

[LM Tony]

Agreed ^^

Those Scara's look sick on your G...

[retrospex]

+1 wow, great post

[Norrek4040]

MY 98 Q45, hopefully i didnt post in the wrong place!

http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/39/l_33b18d91dd984bfd8e52f79207fde1b5.jpg

http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/57/l_4019f5267dc747209c22b347d11f5147.jpghttp://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/33/l_b518829958c941b5bb925af04419ec68.jpg

[LM Tony]

Are those Mahdi Caesars? Would look great once dropped...

[xseveredveganx]

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/5896/img0644ui5.jpg

That is sick!!! Makes me like newer Accords more! :biggthumpup:

[Norrek4040]

Are those Mahdi Caesars? Would look great once dropped...

yeah they are gonna drop it here in the next two weeks...thanks

[LS_240]

Im sorry this might be off topic but, Is it just me or is the posting on this forums different from other forums? Im having a really hard time reading the post if I have to start from the last page to ready the begining. Sorry again for being off topic. Im new here btw.

[pyindeem]

nice info , nice thread.

[thesimpleS13]

there's always more to learn about cars and car styling haha, very good information in this thread! even though it's not a true VIP car platform, i've always wanted to work on a G35 Sedan, i just think that there is soo much potential for it. Not true VIP, but VIP style / Auto Lux is good enough for me :biggthumpup:

[DUFFM4N]

Im sorry this might be off topic but, Is it just me or is the posting on this forums different from other forums? Im having a really hard time reading the post if I have to start from the last page to ready the begining. Sorry again for being off topic. Im new here btw.

go into your UserCP and on the left toolbar click "Edit Options" under "settings & options", then scroll down to "thread display options" and click the drop down menu and select "Linear - Oldest first"

that should fix it

[justiiin]

what he said

[calibobby704]

DOOD U FOLKS GOT SUM CLEAN-ASS RIDES... MY HOMIE TRYNA DO THAT WITH HIS ACCORD. HE STILL LOOKING FOR WHEELS AND FINISH INSTALLING THE AIR-RIDE SETUP. THE 350 PRETTY FRESH TOO.

[Y32_gloria]

Hey I'm new to VSC over from Nicoclub and luxuryjcars. I have a 93 Nissan Gloria coming over from Japan. here are some pics.

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa142/98jdmctr/GetAttachmente.jpg
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa142/98jdmctr/GetAttachmentg.jpg
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa142/98jdmctr/ddfsd.jpg

[ahmonrah]

gotta pay to play, i've got a non-vip platform truck (2002 isuzu axiom) the EXACT model in pic.
http://www.mustangworld.com/ourpics/News/funford001/houstonautomike/Isuzu-Axiom-2.jpg

and an nissan rps13. both vehicles i liked when i got them, but when it comes to VIP, i'm buying what i've always liked, the 2001 Q45. personally i like that rendition of the Q and was happy that it is among the original VIP platforms. either way...blah...blah, buying the Q in FEB, which brings me here to this site for examples...

[SouthernStyles]

This is very interesting stuff here cant wait to get started. I drive a 07 Nissan Max soon to be put thru the VIP treatment as of now it sits on springs soon to be coilovers i terd posting a pic but its to large so i will add one soon.

[brownsc3]

I just want to make it look luxurious but build my 2jzge Na-t
http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp349/sos_customs/aftermarket%20parts/sc_series_92_karmotion_carbon_body_.jpg
next up polish out my advan sienna's


95lexus sc300 5spd

[Shonn]

VIP platform :biggthumpup:
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[jdmasfck]

not mines, but the sickest g35 sedan in Oahu.

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x183/Jason115_mxr/DSC01196_1_-600x450.jpg

[urmyhero4now]

wow that has to be the sickest g i have ever seen period...that fitment is crazy. I did not know they could go so deep.

[jdmasfck]

VV its a daily driver and has low-offset AME Shallen LX wheels, pulled/stretched fenders and slammed on coilovers! no air suspension. 0___0

[urmyhero4now]

VV its a daily driver and has low-offset AME Shallen LX wheels, pulled/stretched fenders and slammed on coilovers! no air suspension. 0___0

i find that hard to believe...does anyone have anymore pics of this car? or its setup?

[jdmasfck]

i find that hard to believe...does anyone have anymore pics of this car? or its setup?


here's the info. there's only one picture i could find. sorry. but take a look, it also says so :thumbsup:
http://likenootherllc.com/gallery.html

[a-holesniper]

True. I rolled in with him for out HIN 2008 (Dec). The guys on coilovers and rides like that daily (without the front lip though). The fitment is pretty flush and believe it or not he said he doesn't rub tires at all.

[yukis45]

car is crazy in general, slammed with awesome offsets, which is hard to do with the 4 door G35. Super cool guy in person and keep the car clean, much props, it was an honor entering show as a team with him :biggthumpup:

[jdmasfck]

True. I rolled in with him for out HIN 2008 (Dec). The guys on coilovers and rides like that daily (without the front lip though). The fitment is pretty flush and believe it or not he said he doesn't rub tires at all.

yeh, its hard to believe that it doesnt rub. haha, didnt he sell his car though or is he still trying to sell it? idk but i seen his thread up on forumshawaii

[VipDout]

fawq , thats hard core we need some driving shots ! !! !!

[RedGalant2k1]

VIP platform :biggthumpup:
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Nice a UCFII, I think that is one of the nicest LS generations made. The lines are just so clean and nice.

[Caliban]

taking notes.. thanks for the great info.

[JZS_RCTS]

some awesome info in this thread

[evil-G-nius]

The way I am seeing things...and as my understanding...there are the true true VIP cars but they are the JDM variants. The USDM cars technichally are not because of subtle differences? Is this what the VIP heads are saying? If so, I think the correct term for the majority of the cars styled after such automotive greats like the Aristo, Cedric, Celsior and so on, should be "VIP Styled" (hence the website name) cars and then the cars that are completely off the scale of what the tradition says, but fit the mold, should be called "VIP Inspired" cars. I think that would clear up some of the frustration of purists and apeaze the masses. Again, my take on things...anyone agree or am I way off base!? LOL

[JN.FYC]

The way I am seeing things...and as my understanding...there are the true true VIP cars but they are the JDM variants. The USDM cars technichally are not because of subtle differences? Is this what the VIP heads are saying? If so, I think the correct term for the majority of the cars styled after such automotive greats like the Aristo, Cedric, Celsior and so on, should be "VIP Styled" (hence the website name) cars and then the cars that are completely off the scale of what the tradition says, but fit the mold, should be called "VIP Inspired" cars. I think that would clear up some of the frustration of purists and apeaze the masses. Again, my take on things...anyone agree or am I way off base!? LOL


There are true vip cars that are JDM variants. There USDM vip cars would be the Lexus LS & GS line as well Infiniti Q45's & M35/45 in Japan they are the Toyota Aristo/Celsior & Nissan Gloria & Cima.

And pretty much any car that is completely out of scale of what the true base forms are but are modified in the sense of "vip styling" would be Vip Styled/ Influenced.


Hope i cleared it up, as clear as possible

[evil-G-nius]

So that is pretty much what I was saying, but the us equivolents of the Aristo,Gloria,Cedric etc count as true VIP cars. And as stated anything else is just styled or inspired by....got it!

[nissannewb]

Noice write up....I actually have a better understanding about VIPs.
Im new to the scene....Ive always been a honda and acura guy, but have since moved up to Nissans. :thankyou:

[VipDout]

Nice to see everyone is still learning up Vip101

[spud]

The scene has definitely expanded, and just as true 'drift' cars have evolved, so has every other form of car modification to meet the needs of people in different markets.

What about german luxury saloons?

Would you classify them as VIP styled?

[acil h22]

yoh.. i know my ride isn't a vip car, that's y i refered it as an elegant style.. but after reading this thread,, damn it worsen the feeling of actually not having a vip c ar but still joinin a vip forum.. hahaha..

[A.R.]

Ahh, I feel so sorry for you guys in the US, you gotta go through hoops and all kinds of "rigamarole" to import the chassis you don't get there. It isn't that bad in FL though, I saw a good bit of importers bringing them in. of course, there's always conversions and kit cars. If you want to be VIP in the first place you're going to spend $$$, why not go all out?

[w211inOC]

thanks for the write up! very informative, and i'm glad to be here. :)

[blind_injustice]

Howdy from Australia.
i have a 'True' VIP car. 1994 Toyota Aristo.
Admiration front bar (needs repairing)
Veilside side, and rear bar.
only got 18" Vertec Manaray's atm, but biggg wheels are on the way. :)
Check my ride in the intro section.


Im pretty sure im ontop of what is, and what isnt VIP :P

[naes]

im pretty sure i have a good understanding on what VIP and VIPstyle is
i myself have a "true" platform VIP car which is a 91toyotacelsior/ls400
slammed on full sus. with jp accessories
im starting off on the right foot with this right?

[LayLowSC]

92 SC300 Slammed Tein CS UAS bags, trafficstar wheels....


is that a good start for VIP?:giggity::dance:

[VipDout]

looks like everyone is getting the right chassie , the next step is to find the other thread and get our of the entry level vip starter cars ;P

dont let price set you back from what you want , but if you love the car then you love the car

[slammedcavi]

Nice...LOL Read, and understood...

[LostinJapan]

were we supposed to read the whole thread?

[rto1024]

interesteing info. i have a q45 although this is my second nissan (infiniti) i was previously a honda guy.

[EASTSiDE 2 WESTSiDE]

lol @ this thread I am here studying for a computer course and notice that people seriously cannot comprehend what VIP is and the fact that people have to read up to understand is funny sh*t. This is the VIP Training Course I think we need flash cards to help out :pat:

[vipka9]

there is a lot of information here lol makes me sad that my ka9 isnt a platform but just somewhat of a knockoff.. lol:sad:

[Tony (JP)]

Hey new guy here I decided to take a break from speed and jumped into an LS400, waiting on some coilovers and a set of 19's. Will be posting pics soon.

[JVT]

Hi everyone, just registered this evening. :wavey:

Great meeting some of you at NorCal bbq, had a great time!

Cheers!
JVT

[tekalpha86]

Hey, I just registered and I own a White 92 Lexus SC300 5-spd thats stock at the moment. Im looking at getting the :bowdown:Auto Coulure 3 piece body kit and doing an JDM air suspention as soon as I can.

[NELSON09]

Welcome fellow nOObies. Lotsa insight and SIIICK rides in here. Best of luck on your projects and I hope you enjoy your stay as much as I have thus far.

[Chance3000]

new here, working on my VIP inspired fc now, but have a slow start on the sl500. Looking to pick up fabulous aero soon and possibly a dash table

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k93/SlideAllianceTouge/Random1004.jpg

I'm doing this from my phone right now so please excuse the single picture haha

['03TL-S]

Hey guys, i just registered. Looking for ideas to start on a new project and hopefully to meet some local guys that are on the forums.

[fonzo91121]

Whats up fellow VIP'ers, noob here!
93 GS300 white w/silver bottom, light brown/dark brown leather and 17"rims (for now, still new).
L7 with kicker 600.1 in dash everything.
for starters.
Anyone know where i can find a idle air control valve?
Thanks.

[Aristo-crat]

Gidday....JUST signed up...
Own a 97 Aristo (GS300), two tone. Pretty stock apart from lowered springs, front mount, 18" deep dish rims, 7" Touch screen and 9" flip down monitor.

Whats going in...

HID kit
Manual BC for front turbo
EBC for rear turbo
Internal LED light kit
Playstation 2
=)

[mike043081]

Here is my new toy.. A 2000 Y33 Touring

[OJAY]

whats up im ojay from phaze2/HSI.... and new to VSC. i been lurking a bit here and there and just made if official. heres a couple of under construction pics so far.....my UCF10

http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/93/l_891b9d6206a44d05844deb39fb73ea8b.jpg
http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/80/l_313a6cc3346e463a98a6349ae279f377.jpg
http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/52/l_a437df25d5e54aa3a0c144aba3128068.jpg

[mike043081]

Great Start OJAY I always loved those wheels. GANGSTA!!

[OJAY]

hey thanks man i really appreciate it!!! =)

[perzbenz]

I believe W140 is included as a traditional VIP platform

[SNG35]

Hey guys! Just wanted to let my presence be known for a fellow noob. I have a G35 coupe with some decent bolt on parts and also Reauto's old black T1S's

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f131/mixedazn53/DSCF2571.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f131/mixedazn53/33mvi85.jpg

[mike043081]

Red and black is my favorite color scheme for every car. Offest looks dope!! Love the LED turn signals. Welcome!!

[perzbenz]

test

[SNG35]

Red and black is my favorite color scheme for every car. Offest looks dope!! Love the LED turn signals. Welcome!!
thanks..it's still in the making of course..just had it tuned with sum bolt-ons i have and made 253 whp...love the way it feels now..i would luv to get sum bags and have this dumped and raised whenever i want..maybe i'll be lucky enough to find sum on here..but everything is a learning progress...thanks again..

[mike043081]

Yeah g/l on your build man bags would be sick! Just remember too do it once and do it right. Because these parts aren't cheap lol!!!!

[SNG35]

Yeah g/l on your build man bags would be sick! Just remember too do it once and do it right. Because these parts aren't cheap lol!!!!
yeah i hear ya..my room mate has UAS but i would luv to get air runners..

[schram]

Hey, I'm Schram from Winnipeg, MB up in Canada. Just bought a '96 LS400 and I've been lurkin' here for ideas for my ride. There are a TON of beautiful LS's here. This is my car, a lot of work to do, tons of possibilities.. http://www.vipstylecars.com/forums/images/attach/jpg.gifhttp://www.vipstylecars.com/forums/images/attach/jpg.gif

[99v6sedan]

Ok it has been a long time since ive posted here. I joined a while ago but never kept comming back like I thought I would. I stay pretty busy on a few other forums so Im gonna try my best to keep comming back here. This site is really insperational. Heres a few pics that were taken this past weekend.


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2473/4024921424_d530e85e76_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3488/4024930576_c162749fef_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2700/4024775380_a263c8ae4b_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2802/4024780772_13b44a7dc8_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2606/4024942118_6dbdd4a242_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2441/4024627220_1197605a9e_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3519/4024833782_7bbe35baa7_b.jpg

heres the link to the rest of the pics.
Bagged Accord - a set on Flickr (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ballinfizzle/sets/72157622490832923/)

[DadeCountyVIP]

new to the site, just signed up...im currently selling my DUB inspired car to jump into VIP. I wantd VIP to b my first project but the DUB scene kind of fell on my lap with my first car. my delimma is idk whether to buy a 98 Lexus GS300, 95-99 Lexus LS, or 98 Inifniti Q45.

I was also wondering is the Lexus ES is a VIP body vehicle.

Please help me out guys!

[BAHC]

new to the site, just signed up...im currently selling my DUB inspired car to jump into VIP. I wantd VIP to b my first project but the DUB scene kind of fell on my lap with my first car. my delimma is idk whether to buy a 98 Lexus GS300, 95-99 Lexus LS, or 98 Inifniti Q45.

I was also wondering is the Lexus ES is a VIP body vehicle.

Please help me out guys!


the ES is generally not considered a PLATFORM car, but the newer ones definatly have potential.

[DadeCountyVIP]

alright, thanks for the notification BAHC.

I also wanted to add the Infiniti J30 on the list, also known as the "Nissan Presient", correct?

[Go90go]

^ The Q45 was the closest to the President, not the J30.


~Cheers~

[hawaiianxbzee]

some sick rides in here

[mr. cruz]

lots of clean rides, my bro came up on a Q45 and hopefully i can come up on a first gen GS300. and im lookin forward to learning a whole lot more about this scene.

[VipDout]

^ we invite you , please keep reading.

[VipDout]

sounds like a good plan !

[jrock091792]

hey whats up guys, im new to the forums, i actually just lerned how to use it. im from jersey im 17 and i jst bought me a 98 gs300. comments onda car are welcomed. still got alot to do with it. tryna put da VIP look into it.

http://i46.tinypic.com/2rze2o3.jpg
http://i46.tinypic.com/33vkr4k.jpg
http://i50.tinypic.com/124bspf.jpg
http://i50.tinypic.com/9lix51.jpg

[MR.J]

lower it some more..
and your set.

[laydout430]

Jrock your GS3 looks good but yeah i think that color and most of the stuff you have would great with some VIP style behind it

[jrock091792]

yaa im planning on ordering curtains 2day or wenever my mom lends me her card lol. but this month theres curtains goin on, a VIP table in black, the rain gards, roof wing and LED tails. nd in march im gna air ride it. so far i have 2 t.v;s in the headrest, black and tan interior thats going all black. on my rear deck i have 2 10" audio pipe, 2 6.5 audio pipe and 2 tweeters, and in the trunk i have 2 12"l7's. and a rockford amp 1000 WATTS, a JL 500 WAT and a sony 1000 WATT but theres alot more coming.

WOULD ANYBODY BE ABLE TO TELL ME WHAT SIZE CURTAINS I NEED IF I GET THEM FROM BELLEZA?

http://i46.tinypic.com/o6yxxt.jpg
http://i50.tinypic.com/2lm6qn5.jpg
http://i45.tinypic.com/fx4fa1.jpg

[Sushi Boy]

WOULD ANYBODY BE ABLE TO TELL ME WHAT SIZE CURTAINS I NEED IF I GET THEM FROM BELLEZA?

http://i46.tinypic.com/o6yxxt.jpg
http://i50.tinypic.com/2lm6qn5.jpg
http://i45.tinypic.com/fx4fa1.jpg



Usually everyone rocks small... but if you like the saggy look go medium,...

anyway,....

I just read through most of the posts not all.. but most importantly the first one...

ever since i saw those "autofashion" rides at shows... i loved em... and wanted one, one day... well coming from the honda scene previously owning a 2003 rsx-s. I sold it and paid stuff off and purchased a 2000 q45... needs a lil motor work... but nothing too big... (i hope) learning the whole VIP tunning and styles from others here and reading has helped with my future decisions... so let the tunning begin!

[K Nguyen]

Good info. Puts in more knowledge about VIP then I knew.

[eddie_k_]

agreed 100%

[nissan-z]

nice cars

[jayaccord]

crazy!!

[chik-n-little]

Good info in here...

[jdm4lyf]

Personally and it's just my opinion, I think almost all the cars on here are VIP inspired. Personally I don't see the Lexus models and Infiniti models as being the same as the JDM specs. I mean there are many things that set them apart from one and other unless you own the original model and not the US versions. It's like taking your 240 Nd making it look like a Silvia, but its still a 240, you simply did a conversion. That's how I see these cars. But all in all I love this scene and even the Japanese VIP style other kinds of cars such as Euros, so I really don't see what the big deal is. Sorry if this looks all jumbled, I typed it off my iPhone.

[KNEXX]

huh wait WHAT?? :slap:

[brainneeded]

Personally and it's just my opinion, I think almost all the cars on here are VIP inspired. Personally I don't see the Lexus models and Infiniti models as being the same as the JDM specs. I mean there are many things that set them apart from one and other unless you own the original model and not the US versions. It's like taking your 240 Nd making it look like a Silvia, but its still a 240, you simply did a conversion. That's how I see these cars. But all in all I love this scene and even the Japanese VIP style other kinds of cars such as Euros, so I really don't see what the big deal is. Sorry if this looks all jumbled, I typed it off my iPhone.
this guy just took purist to a whole 'nother level. :pat:

[heavenz11]

Guess this would be an introduction page. Well, got on here recently. Had a previous 98' q45 on Tein springs on Work Ryvers and the basic stuff. Well sold the car a year ago and I just recently bough another one. Already ordered my coilovers now that there's actually more manufacturers for the suspension in the US now. I had that car back in 2007 and VIP Scene was just getting big in the NW and didn't have much parts for the q45. So I'm back in the scene and found this site the other night when I was looking for some wheels. So hello.. people.

[<3r]

Hi im sean and i own a 350z! Please dont hurt me guys thanks :]

[Omfgitzdanny]

Long story short, my name is Danny my dream car was an s2k years and years ago when it first came out, finally got the car but felt like it didn't fit my style I remember seeing the gs from jp years ago and I was debating on which way I wanted to go. Bought the s2k from a friend and now I'm the 2nd owner when I was on Facebook Just the other day I posted on my wall about trying to find a VIP out 98+ gs on baggs and wheels and a friend referred me to this site now this is where my journey begins anybody think I can do it? or would anybody really trade a semi VIP gs for an s2k?

[VIPanda]

http://www.vipstylecars.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23460

maybe that'll help you, but I have a GS and I love it. No mods on it yet, but its kinda my dream car. Its all up to you. if that's your cup of tea go for it.

[vipmikey]

I guess my whip is VIP just cause its a celsior :)

[VIPNSPRD]

WOW what a history and debate. I always had a feeling VIP originated with the yakuza in japan.

[dJdRoPz]

ive learned a lot jus from this thread alone omg

[s2dannyk]

looking forward to trade my s2k for a bagged gs300 can't wait..

[s2dannyk]

-getting my complete back tatted from the neck up down to the waist line:$1500
-buying an s2k for $10k then trading it for a bagged gs300/400 & changing over the title:$500
-rolling up to the club and dropping the frame at the valet: priceless....

[illest]

^^???!?!!!

- good info....I myself am a vip influenced platform. .. or in this case auto luxury. good stuff!

[evilchargerfan]

only took me 5 years later to find this post! :lol:

def some good info