Possible Ksport coilovers for Y33

[TransformCelsior]

I talked to Ksport about a week ago in regards to fitments for Y33 q45's.


http://www.ksportusa.com/index.html

they said they would manufacturer them if they received an order of 10 sets or more.

the exciting thing is; their entry level coilovers run between 750-950 and they come with adjustable camber plates.

would it be possible for them to manufacturer them without having to integrate them into y33 oem spindles ?

what you guys think ?

[Q_Ship]

Just remember that the Q45 and the Q45T use different spindles.

[charley240sx]

not to be rude, but wouldnt that be where it connects to the wheels? if so, then how else would they make it connect? i am in the market for a y33 as of right now. so i guess im no help.
goodluck
Charley

[Dominik]

There was a Y33 in a recent vipstyle mag that had S14 Silvia suspension on the front.
It involved Silvia struts, Y33 Strut tops, Silvia Lower Control arms and Silva hub knuckles

Also, i dont know if it was because of the conversion or if it was done intentionally, but he had around 12 degrees of camber on the front ;)

Might be worth a try if you can find the parts cheap (starting with OEM suspension parts off a 240SX?)

If it is possible, that would be *one* possibility for avoiding the integrated spindle/strut combo

[charley240sx]

There was a Y33 in a recent vipstyle mag that had S14 Silvia suspension on the front.
It involved Silvia struts, Y33 Strut tops, Silvia Lower Control arms and Silva hub knuckles

Also, i dont know if it was because of the conversion or if it was done intentionally, but he had around 12 degrees of camber on the front ;)

Might be worth a try if you can find the parts cheap (starting with OEM suspension parts off a 240SX?)

If it is possible, that would be *one* possibility for avoiding the integrated spindle/strut combo

s14 hub knuckles are fairly hard to come by, especially the 5lug hubs. and not cheap. wow, 12 degrees camber, seriously, that would be so hott. was this for the fronts? what about the rears? do you have any pics that you can upload? that would be greatly appreciated.
charley

[antbo]

not to be rude, but wouldnt that be where it connects to the wheels? if so, then how else would they make it connect? i am in the market for a y33 as of right now. so i guess im no help.
goodluck
Charley

dont mean to thread jack, but i got a used set of coilovers for sale. hit me up. maybe we can work something out

[Dominik]

s14 hub knuckles are fairly hard to come by, especially the 5lug hubs. and not cheap. wow, 12 degrees camber, seriously, that would be so hott. was this for the fronts? what about the rears? do you have any pics that you can upload? that would be greatly appreciated.
charley


Yeah its for the front and the car is smokin hot. Rears are a bit more than that. He's tucking negative offset Work Eurolines with less than 1cm ground clearance. I'll see what i can do for scanning some pics.

The article says it had to be S14 because it was 5-lug. Oh well, worth a try anyway!

[TransformCelsior]

well what about the KSPORT guys ?

they are supposedly made from a manufacturing company in japan.

I wonder if this is the same company that Aimgain-insurance-fabulous-etc outsources from ?

[One Ton VIP]

Or more like Korea.

They do not realize that the Y33 front spindle is attached to the bottom of the strut. There is no way for the end user to just "attach" a coilover assembly to it on their own. Casting new spindles, or even acquiring a large enough quantity of used stock cores (that must then be reconditioned) goes against Ksport's principle of selling cheap quality/price coilovers, and thus they will most likely not go for it. Instead of looking for cheaper and cheaper alternatives that is already known for not being the best quality, how about looking at more/easier ways to acquire existing, good quality items?

I can't wait till people demand Andy's Autosport and Version Select make cheap crap bodykits for VIP cars. Uh oh... as if no one's tried...!

[TransformCelsior]

wowwy I didn't know KSPORT was a cheap brand.

the guys on the legend boards are lovin them though.

[One Ton VIP]

Notice people who rave about cheaper brand coilovers are usually replacing their old, worn (usually 10+ years old) stock suspension setups, so of course almost anything would give a dramatic improvement! I wouldn't say KSport is super doo doo, but it's definitely not all that either. But that's the point; since they are a cheaper brand, it doesn't make fiscal sense for them to try and produce a coilover for a car that: 1) requires a lot of costs to manufacture the front units, and 2) doesn't have enough of a demand yet.

[TransformCelsior]

van,

I don't understand.

why is it that the JIC's need the factory spindle when the insurance coilovers do not require the spindles ? why is is that insurance can do a direct swap without having the need of the car's factory spindle ?

PLEASE explain this to me.

[One Ton VIP]

All the companies need the factory front spindles, it's just that Insurance includes that cost in the price of their coilovers. If you see JICs sold in the US for really cheap, that cost is most likely not included, and is then added on as a "surprise!" It's not most of the vendors' faults though, as they don't know either, until JIC tells them. Of course, if you lived in Japan, you could send JIC Japan your stock spindles in exchange and get a little bit of a core refund, but I'm not too sure how that would fly in the US. Then again, either way, for hard to come by parts (like these front spindles), I usually would prefer to pay a little more to be able to keep the stock part just in case... like if you ever decided to sell the car, or if you get into an accident and the car is totalled and insurance buys it from you, and you need to return the car to stock, etc....

[Dr_Drift]

All the companies need the factory front spindles, it's just that Insurance includes that cost in the price of their coilovers. If you see JICs sold in the US for really cheap, that cost is most likely not included, and is then added on as a "surprise!" It's not most of the vendors' faults though, as they don't know either, until JIC tells them. Of course, if you lived in Japan, you could send JIC Japan your stock spindles in exchange and get a little bit of a core refund, but I'm not too sure how that would fly in the US. Then again, either way, for hard to come by parts (like these front spindles), I usually would prefer to pay a little more to be able to keep the stock part just in case... like if you ever decided to sell the car, or if you get into an accident and the car is totalled and insurance buys it from you, and you need to return the car to stock, etc....

Sorry about my lack of knowledge in this area. I am also in the market for a Y33 and im trying to learn as much as possible. So like me make sure i understand what is being said. If your going to go the coilover route you are either going to have to buy coilovers (insurance) that come with new front spindles. Or just suck it up and get a set of springs that will give you a decent but not crazy drop?

[implayaz_9]

these coilovers are very popular on cheaper car like honda/acura's.. as they perform very well on those cars and have great reviews but that does not mean it is the same on heavier car as well as expecive car like lexus etc.. for a car like a y33 you might wanna spend more and get some quality stuff..

[antbo]

All the companies need the factory front spindles, it's just that Insurance includes that cost in the price of their coilovers. If you see JICs sold in the US for really cheap, that cost is most likely not included, and is then added on as a "surprise!" It's not most of the vendors' faults though, as they don't know either, until JIC tells them. Of course, if you lived in Japan, you could send JIC Japan your stock spindles in exchange and get a little bit of a core refund, but I'm not too sure how that would fly in the US. Then again, either way, for hard to come by parts (like these front spindles), I usually would prefer to pay a little more to be able to keep the stock part just in case... like if you ever decided to sell the car, or if you get into an accident and the car is totalled and insurance buys it from you, and you need to return the car to stock, etc....

i second that. thats why i think my coilovers for sale are a decent price for what it is

[Yokotas13]

dont do it, ksports are horrible
knockoff trash

[illtechauto]

Hello, I am new to this forum and caught this thread while surfing and thought I would offer some help you guys with the Ksport coilovers or JIC's for your Y33's or ??? I have a 00 y33 myslef on JIC's and Eurolines and my Co. is MASTER DISTRIBUTOR of Ksport and auth dlr of JIC. PM me for prices or q's and I will forward them to my GM to set you guys up if you need it. We are going to have 8 piston brake kits made for the Y33's as well if anyone is interested!

[cvc9216]

There was a Y33 in a recent vipstyle mag that had S14 Silvia suspension on the front.
It involved Silvia struts, Y33 Strut tops, Silvia Lower Control arms and Silva hub knuckles

Also, i dont know if it was because of the conversion or if it was done intentionally, but he had around 12 degrees of camber on the front ;)

Might be worth a try if you can find the parts cheap (starting with OEM suspension parts off a 240SX?)

If it is possible, that would be *one* possibility for avoiding the integrated spindle/strut combo


pics? I would be very interested in this, I have s14 knuckles and coilovers laying around. anyone know the length of rear y33 shocks? Looks like S13 coilovers might be close. It would be cool if that worked since there are so many more options for the s-chassis cars and I have all the stuff laying around already

[nextgear1]

There's a reason only a few companies have ventured into doing full coilovers for the y33 chassis. Anceltion, JIC, Aragosta, Impul, etc.... have made the investment mostly due to demand in the JDM marketplace. And even these companies are necessarily building significant inventory for the y33 because of the three words that make any aftermarket suspension for the Y33 difficult-- "Spindle Incorporated Strut." This is a very big issue (usually a deterent) for companies like K sport who have made a name for themselves (I'll withhold judgment on "good" or "bad" or even "quality" vs. "cheap") by offering inexpensive alternatives to the JDM and USDM companies who manufacture suspension.

I was at PRI last December and talked personally with the guys at JIC who are having fits over sourcing the spindles in order to make the JIC coilovers for the Y33. This is simply not a venture for companies whose have made their name by offering 750.00-1100.00 coilover kits.

I don't want to leave the impression that I wouldn't like to see the 750.00 to 1100.00 alternative...but I think it'll be difficult to impossible for the "alternative" companies to jump into this market and be competative.

just my 2 cents.

[gato]

I had Ksport coilovers on my old ES.

The meterial and structure of the product seem pretty solid.

went from the cut coils on the megan springs to the ksport coilovers.

but now, after riding on the HA's on the GS.......the ksports were bouncy bouncy.

Cant recall wether they were Taiwan or Korea....on of the two:confused:
http://www.clublexus.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=64614&stc=1&d=1112409227

[nextgear1]

Like i said I'm not going to comment about quality. I used to roll megans on my 240sx so i'm not a "brand" buyer or a "JDM parts are the only parts that are worthy of being put on my car" kinda guy. There are products out there for every project and every budget.

Props to KSport if they decide to do this.

[zion_97]

I think once Ksport sees whats actually involved they will reconsider thier price. As well as subcontract the labor unless they have all the required tools and know how. First off the spindles are a cast material and that is very hard to weld as well as costly. You have to know the dates of the metal and it takes a very expierenced welder to this type of job, Why do you think JIC has to outsource all this work to Japan and then ship it back to the US..hhmmm..This would boost up the price of Ksports product as well,,and quallity not the same by far.. Oh and a lot of the other companies that are out thier use eibach and JIC and rebadge and paint for thier company..Food for thought.

[nextgear1]

^ Agreed....Like i said there is obviously room in the market for an inexpensive alternative. I just think it's going to be difficult to find a company that can offer the inexpensive alternative---not for the Y33.