this is my whip

[aftermathacura]

dont see many acura's on here representing,so i figuerd i would try.
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e26/aftermathacura/DSC00806.jpg
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e26/aftermathacura/DSC00783.jpg
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e26/aftermathacura/DSC00777.jpg

[mtbr64]

very nice rl. slam it with some wider wheels something like 18x9 plus 27 in the rear and 18x8 plus 27 in the front and it should look great

[sonicadio]

thats a 18"?

[aftermathacura]

no thanks , id rather go with a 20x7.5 rim/ 30 series tire combo tuckin in the fender. thats 19's on it in those pics, i have 18's on it right now and it looks like shit me. dont really want to down size.

[VIP_Drifter]

Looks nice. Better than my car, so I can't really talk bad about it. Glad you stuck with a classy look. Sounds like it'll only get classier.

[ffgarage]

get a lip kit, and air runner.. lots money but it will lok clean.
may be some 19x7.5 Front or 19x8/8.5 in the rear.

[shawnthemonster]

chase this look...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v711/shawnthemonster/p4-13.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v711/shawnthemonster/DSC_0310.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v711/shawnthemonster/P1-3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v711/shawnthemonster/P1-2.jpg

[mrhappi]

To each his own.

[auditech]

the second and third black one is TIGHT!

[Kuroikaze]

chase this look...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v711/shawnthemonster/p4-13.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v711/shawnthemonster/DSC_0310.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v711/shawnthemonster/P1-3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v711/shawnthemonster/P1-2.jpg


Second and third pic, is that the skp lip kit? If not, then what brand?

[808UCF]

Second and third pic, is that the skp lip kit? If not, then what brand?

What kind of kit is used on the first and second photos? I don't remember Sessions making any kit for the RL.

[aftermathacura]

This isnt a DUB forum....it really is about wheel fitment.yes i know this, but if a set of 20's with a 30 series tire sits a half an inch lower than my 19's ,i rather go bigger ,not just so i can run ''DUBS''. going bigger without oversizing and still having clearance when dropped is my idea of wheel fitment.

[Caoboy]

reason people are saying it's not a dub forum, is this style leans toward max fitting wheels for the car. if you can run a 20x8 up front and a 20x9 in the rear why not? it will give you more lippage, and the wheels can still tuck if needed, depending on how low of an offset you go. sunken wheels don't ever look good, and that's how most dub cars come off, so that's why people are saying don't get dub styled wheels (meaning widths/offsets)

[elpresidente]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v724/Bowl/matsu_rf_2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v724/Bowl/matsu_LR.jpg
Evolution ka9 (http://www.evolution.co.jp/exclusive/others/ka9/)

[aftermathacura]

reason people are saying it's not a dub forum, is this style leans toward max fitting wheels for the car. if you can run a 20x8 up front and a 20x9 in the rear why not? it will give you more lippage, and the wheels can still tuck if needed, depending on how low of an offset you go. sunken wheels don't ever look good, and that's how most dub cars come off, so that's why people are saying don't get dub styled wheels (meaning widths/offsets) well i understand since i only have a few post why someone may think they need to give me a brief lesson on sizes,offsets,and widths. but i know my car . i not a big fan of sunken wheels myself... but im very limited on rims i can run being my car is front wheel drive. if i cant go with a phat lip then i want to atleast have them look big and tuck when it is bagged.

[firelizard]

And that's why I'm afraid to say, you don't "get it" yet.

Tucking big is DUB. Vip takes aggressive fitment.

FWD is no excuse, just look at all the Scions and Fits. Besides, you're not S.O.L. if you can't be bothered to make big lips fit (I know I can't). Lots of wheels look good by making the most of a high offset.

[aftermathacura]

what i dont get? because the fact that im on a vip website that i might just have non vip ideas. so what.... im not trying to jump on the bandwagon...o.k. im just trying to combine a few styles from my years of customizing cars and make my own style.
besides... over half the cars on this site a tuckin a big rims in the fender. i guess their not VIP either.

[firelizard]

No,not really what I mean, but it sounds like you're not willing to do Vip styling...I'm not understanding why you want to tuck 20s instad of go low and flush on 18 or 19...that sounds exactly like Dub mentality...and since stance pretty much is the backbone of Vip...I don't get it.

Have you got other plans?

[SikNLow]

the TL in my sig is a FWD.... and it's sitting on 18x9/10 with an offset of i think +27 in t he rear and +35 in the front? here's some better pics of it....:

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y260/implicitautosports/acurazine_07_29.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y260/implicitautosports/IMG_3110Medium.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y260/implicitautosports/IMG_3110Medium-1.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y260/implicitautosports/DSC_2294.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y260/implicitautosports/DSC_2297.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y260/implicitautosports/DSC_2298.jpg

[aftermathacura]

i tell you what guys, show me some pics of an ka9 bagged with some real aggressive big lip wheels and i will consider it. but until then i have done enough research to know what i prefer and what is pratical for this car.... hell ive had 3 sets of 19's already already.
by the way nice tl , i just dont think fender flares will look to good on an rl.
as for as what i want to do next. i just completed a front end conversion from a 04. so im thinking paint will be next.

[SikNLow]

Hey i know people are jumping on you over the decision to go 20" but I personally understand the fact that it is a growing in Japan as well to use 20"+ wheels but they have to be right not just any 20's will do so here you go the compromise!!!

http://nomad.liquidweb.com/~need4spe/ebay/mrr/hr4/mrrhr4.jpg

[gh0st]

a lot of 20's look horrible...the Lexani and etc 'dub' wheels. you can still get classy 20" wheels without being gawdy.

[SikNLow]

I agree!!!! that's why I'm trying to steer him away from any italian named wheels ( just a generalization not a rule I do own ESTATUS wheels and that's Latin ) since they tend to heavily lean on the DUB style

[firelizard]

I agree, I'm not saying 20's are a bad idea...just don't rule out others by going just for size.

I don't know what you're into, but I'm a big fan of M'z Speed wheels - they have little to no dish but look very classy as well.
http://www.prussianblue.jp/EN/wheel/wheel_top.htm

They're also very uncommon in North America I believe.

[the_wise_fool]

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e26/aftermathacura/DSC00783.jpg
Glad you didn't do smoked tails. Looks great without them.

[aftermathacura]

i appreciate the help guys but i already know what wheels i want. no need to try to steer me in any direction. i had a vision of my ride together for quiet sometime now.

[inspire]

im on 18x8 18x9's on my UA5...

low as hell on well-fitting 19's > 20's any day

but hell, not my car

[inspire]

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c71/trannduc/P1010069.jpg

ftw

[aftermathacura]

ive seen this pic above before. look how close that back wheel is to the fender with a mild lip rim. does anybody have a close up shot of the rear fender for this car? and it looks like 19's on it to me.... can anyone verify that also...

[jbo]

Yeah we see it thats the agressiveness we all love and are trying to get you to feel as others have said fitment fitment fitment...

[TransformCelsior]

20" would be cool if a RL had body kit.

no body kit, stick to 19".

[aftermathacura]

yes, i understand about the fitment thing guys , but its time to just cut the front wheel drive car some slack already. i dont have air bags at the moment. i like riding low and dont think having a tire hit my back fender every bump is cool for a daily driver . i rather say forget the lip thing and get 20's with a 30 series tire that's that....
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e26/aftermathacura/122-2.jpg

[aftermathacura]

i dont understand why i have been given so much bull on wanting to go with max fitting my wheels , i saw this car posted on another thread and nobody seemed to mind thats its sittin on 22's that look kinda dub style . everybody gave it mad props.
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e26/aftermathacura/03.jpg

[Dominik]

Do you know what he has done in order to make those wheels fit well? Notice how low he is, yet he isnt tucking any rim?

Both front and rear fender arches have been cut and raised (several inches) to allow the car to be slammed without hiding the wheels. Over here we call that 'radiusing fenders' and its the reason we give that car mad props.

See, the problem with putting 20s on your acura (actually with alot of cars, but particularly this car), is that you will have ALOT of air under your car at the point where the wheel sits "flush" with the fender. I've seen quite a few acuras with 20s and they look like donk cars that you can practically walk underneath them. So... If you want to look LOW and still flush, then get 19s, or even 18s. If you want to tuck at least 1" of rim (front and back), then go ahead with the 20s.

Seems alot of people are getting 20s just as an excuse to avoid going low.

[aftermathacura]

if adding 20's would raise my car more ,i would not do it. i said it at the start of this thread ... a 20 with a 30 series tire will actually measure an half a inch lower from the top of the tire to the ground than my 19's . i promise you im not some dub guy just trying to put 20's so i dont have to go low. i have coilovers now and cant wait to see how low i can go with 20's and still drive.

[boost_me]

I hate to say it.......but that red lex on 22's if so so nice.........Not 100% VIP but not DUB either........I LIKE IT......

[Dominik]

if adding 20's would raise my car more ,i would not do it. i said it at the start of this thread ... a 20 with a 30 series tire will actually measure an half a inch lower from the top of the tire to the ground than my 19's . i promise you im not some dub guy just trying to put 20's so i dont have to go low. i have coilovers now and cant wait to see how low i can go with 20's and still drive.

With that attitude, you should be fine with 20s.

The reason some people (well, me at least) are buggin' is that it seems that the whole 'flush' concept seems to being lost in translation. People taking photos of their car on the side to show that the wheels are flush to the fender, yet still have 2" fender gap and 0 camber. Then there is the idea that because 20s/21s are popular in Japan now, its ok to rock them and sit flush without lowering.

The trend in Japan is now all about being low. Who can be the lowest, who can fit the largest wheels without sacrificing lowness... Thats why tucked is ok now, because it means you can go lower (and it makes the car look very low to tuck rim)

[aftermathacura]

well if the trend in japan is just now ...all about who can be the lowest and pimp the biggest wheels .......crazy to say that we over here in the states been doing this one long before japan.

[Caoboy]

we may have been 'tucking' longer, but they fit wheels under their car that most people here would scoff at. 20x12 -xx for example, is something that people in japan would run, radius the fenders, and still make it look like a stock body (fenderwise) car. they tuck the tire and get that 'tsuraichi' (sp) effect, and making us still look like retards who don't know what we are doing. they are always one step ahead of us, the trendsetters for what we follow when it comes to vip style.

if you want to go with 20's and still tuck, be prepared to pull your fenders (if you want a decent sized rim/lip) and prepare to maybe have to bang out your fender wells ( to stop rubbing).

more likely than not, with that you are on coilovers, you will end up keeping some bit of gap. it happens, to stay safe. most guy's you see that are on 20's and up are on air suspension, and have 'extensive' mods here.

in japan, it's way more extensive, and only the best of the best here can accomplish what we all love to see.

[inspire]

if you get the right lookin' 20's and lower it lots, it might turn out ok...

its personal pref man, but its just that most people have a different preference from you, is all

:p

[SikNLow]

I think he is well on his way to hopefully getting it down right, like mentioned before his attitude is on the right side of the tracks when it comes purpose, fitment will be made evident once he posts pics but I think he is well aware of those issues too so I'm confident he'll pull it off, post some pics when you're done man ..... now i'm excited to see it!

[wicked_limitz]

i love RL's! dont see to many modded ones.

[aftermathacura]

well, they dont rub at all , they are no bigger in diameter, they did not raise the car any , and look much better than my 19's (i think anyway) its a practical fitment with an aggressive size. and yes i can go even lower and still drive it . maybe i'll hit some dub forums now.....lol
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e26/aftermathacura/S4200004.jpg
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e26/aftermathacura/S4200006-1.jpg

[TristateViP]

Do you have any shots from the rear? What are the specs?

[elpresidente]

Looks like some spacers will make it look just right.

[Yokotas13]

if you can get this clearance on your 20s
i say go for it
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1123/806436869_0b648e1de3.jpg


if your not gonna make it fit how it should
get 18s or 19s
But then you also have to take into account, if your this low, will teh 19 diameter over hte 18 rub more stuff?

will the 20 tear off your bumper once your suspension compresses

people dont think about these things when they look at wheels
you need to take some more time and measure everything, test fit things, see what will work, what wont

FOr my application anything bugger than 18s wouldnt let me be as low as i wanted.

If you want to do it right, take your time

[quickex99]

Looks awesome man..

Nice to see another RL owner on here

[firelizard]

I dunno bro...it's a clean look, but after seeing stuff like Yokotas13's Cedric, I was expecting more of an effort to seek aggressive fitment

[AME_VIP]

nice job on the front end upgrade. What a difference!

[aftermathacura]

if your not gonna make it fit how it should
get 18s or 19s

you need to take some more time and measure everything, test fit things, see what will work, what wont

If you want to do it right, take your time

make it fit how it should you say...... from who's point of view do you speak of? maybe i think i have it how it should be for what im trying to do. i like my wheels tucked .....i dont really like the lips sticking out my fender.......and as for your comment about telling me to take more time and measure everthing, you should take more time to read this thread from the start.

i can take contructive critism, but your telling how it should be done...... thats like me telling you you shouldnt have your exhaust sticking three feet out the rear of your car, and that you need to take more time to measure things cause you might just rip your bumper off with that setup.

[aftermathacura]

I dunno bro...it's a clean look, but after seeing stuff like Yokotas13's Cedric, I was expecting more of an effort to seek aggressive fitment

is his car front wheel drive?, it may not the best one to compare too as far as wheel fitment issues go.

[firelizard]

is his car front wheel drive?, it may not the best one to compare too as far as wheel fitment issues go.
I don't really see what difference that makes.

[SikNLow]

I understand the statement about wheel fitment on a FWD car and all but I also understand that part of this style is going outside the conventional fitment of wheels and striving for that perfect fitment and stance, which is along the lines of what you see on Yokotas13's ride. There are a few people on here with FWD cars that have successfully pulled off this step in attaining a VIPstyle ride. Don't think these guys are really degrading you they are offering advice which is part of why we are here.

And guys, let's not forget that everyone doesn't either get, or need to subscribe to the style, if they believe they have achieved the fitment they wanted and are happy with it then that's all that matters, but there is no harm in letting them know that this means their ride isn't VIP or VIPstyle because of it, just not in a mean way either! :biggthumpup: Either way I still like your Acura!!!!

[TransformCelsior]

great effort but it really has nothing to do with VIP.

the style of the wheel is all wrong for the car, the wheels are all wrong period.

but hey if that is the look u wnat then I say thumbs up.

the RL is a wonderful VIP platform, one of the very few fwd cars that get into VIP magazines in japan.

[SikNLow]

great effort but it really has nothing to do with VIP.

the style of the wheel is all wrong for the car, the wheels are all wrong period.

but hey if that is the look u wnat then I say thumbs up.

the RL is a wonderful VIP platform, one of the very few fwd cars that get into VIP magazines in japan.


VIPstyle Qoozy VIPstyle hahahaahahha need to make the distinction if we're ever going to get a homogenized community going hahahahaha :dance:

[aftermathacura]

great effort but it really has nothing to do with VIP.

the style of the wheel is all wrong for the car, the wheels are all wrong period.

but hey if that is the look u wnat then I say thumbs up.

the RL is a wonderful VIP platform, one of the very few fwd cars that get into VIP magazines in japan.

when and where did i ever claim my acura was vip or even vip styled in anyway ?

[firelizard]

well, you are here...

*shrug*

I think people - myself included, were just expecting a Vip style car, based on how the thread was going

[SikNLow]

So i guess this was our misunderstanding then! now that that is settled and we don't have a misunderstanding, what are your next plans for mods on your ride? any interior work down the road?

[gene_RL]

From one RL owner to the other... These cars have awesome potential.

[platinumpresto]

:smiley:

http://platinumpresto.sharpcast.com/get/image.jpg?album=8964094112933266841409565668847623 819726749264624356463219485944107848508008970&photo=89640941129332668414095656688476238197267492 64624356463219485945234847926479370&changeId=8605848005&photoSize=image&isDownload=false&fp=%2FwpmWzrrEdnA%2BNUMkz1eiZK3VPKOs%2FK8H2REN2SN8 bDj6%2Bslm5McZ7EpYGgRTdoqERybr7t0mzfRNFseB8I%2B5Qo iJ10yqZ4qvJKBWf7y%2B8%2Fcy1duOpNs9Q%3D%3D

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[VipDout]

well, you are here...

*shrug*

I think people - myself included, were just expecting a Vip style car, based on how the thread was going

+1:pat:

[OG]

:smiley:

http://platinumpresto.sharpcast.com/get/image.jpg?album=8964094112933266841409565668847623 819726749264624356463219485944107848508008970&photo=89640941129332668414095656688476238197267492 64624356463219485945234847926479370&changeId=8605848005&photoSize=image&isDownload=false&fp=%2FwpmWzrrEdnA%2BNUMkz1eiZK3VPKOs%2FK8H2REN2SN8 bDj6%2Bslm5McZ7EpYGgRTdoqERybr7t0mzfRNFseB8I%2B5Qo iJ10yqZ4qvJKBWf7y%2B8%2Fcy1duOpNs9Q%3D%3D

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http://platinumpresto.sharpcast.com/get/image.jpg?album=8964094112933266841409565668847623 819726749264624356463219485944107848508008970&photo=89640941129332668414095656688476238197267492 64624356463219485944112246554520074&changeId=8605848004&photoSize=image&isDownload=false&fp=%2FwpmWzrrEdnA%2BNUMkz1eiZK3VPKOs%2FK8H2REN2SN8 bDj6%2Bslm5McZ7EpYGgRTdoqERybr7t0mzfIyeTtk%2BAVXSm Tf6pBNoRxYAnhLJjpfmeQS2h%2Fnop7Og%3D%3D

man that looks cool. makes me rethink not goin red inside.

[firelizard]

Black car, pink interior, very hot!

Not all cars could pull that off without looking like a Liberaci nightmare though..

[burgy]

http://www.smithworksforge.com/leatherItems/images/1bullWhip.jpgThats a whip......

But your CAR looks good. keep it clean.

[0psi]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v724/Bowl/matsu_rf_2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v724/Bowl/matsu_LR.jpg
Evolution ka9 (http://www.evolution.co.jp/exclusive/others/ka9/)

Anyone happen to know the specs on those wheels?

Also, is that the Exclusive Primary body kit?