The first VIP 3rd Generation Lexus GS I have seen

[RobSoVip]

By T's Project

Some others have tried, but they always seem to go with sportier wheels and what not. This one is legit.

http://www.clublexus.com/gallery/data/500/gs_l_01.jpg
http://www.clublexus.com/gallery/data/500/gs_l_02-1.jpg

[callaghan.]

wow. that thing is fucking beautiful.

[firelizard]

Fabulous Various GS350
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/9893/fabis3eg.jpg
Been out for a while, was at the TAS if I'm not mistaken.
I will admit it is much sportier looking than the one you posted. In fact I prefer yours to the Fab one, but imo the wheels are 1" too much.

[RobSoVip]

Look at the T's project car then look at the fabulous car. One has presence, the other does not. There is a reason that I said that this was the first VIP 3rd gen I have seen. Fab, Wald, Rando, etc have all effed it up. Although the prussian blue one isnt bad, its still lacking the presence and stance to achieve a vip look.

[firelizard]

Look at the T's project car then look at the fabulous car. One has presence, the other does not. There is a reason that I said that this was the first VIP 3rd gen I have seen. Fab, Wald, Rando, etc have all effed it up. Although the prussian blue one isnt bad, its still lacking the presence and stance to achieve a vip look.

Yeah, I can see what you mean for sure.
But, looking at the other cars, they all look pretty much the same to me besides the wheels, since they only have tiny lip kits anyways
Actually, I'm feeling pretty "meh" about the new GS in general. I do still like that T's Project car, and the Fab, Wald, and Rando ones too. But I loathe the new Prussian Blue wheels.

[pitchedup]

that looks good, even has the green tint :coolsmiley:

[eurospec]

http://www.weds.co.jp/download/images/fitting_image/010-011_KRANZE_BAZREIA/KRANZE_BAZREIA_GS300-Back_100.jpg

:2funny:

[555]

kranze is da best.... ;D

[gato]

those are pretty sick!... not feeling the Fabulous though.

[CharismaY33]

kranze is nice as sh()t but i dont like the others there eh to me. :-\ but kranze my friend is :smitten:.

[mdenoga]

i especially like those wheels on the T's Project GS

here's the Rando kit

[RobSoVip]

perhaps I didn't clarify exactly what I meant with this thread. I have seen photo's of the Rando, Prussian Blue, Wald, Junction Produce, etc 3rd Gen GS's, but none of them have been able to pull of a VIP style. This car did though. Wheels, stance, and other pieces together. I dont know why some one posted the Fabulous and Rando kit in this thread. The Fab GS and the Rando GS belong on ClubLexus, not here :uglystupid2:

[bBOXD]

Its awesome how just wheels can make or break the "presence" of car. :)

[actolex]

perhaps I didn't clarify exactly what I meant with this thread. I have seen photo's of the Rando, Prussian Blue, Wald, Junction Produce, etc 3rd Gen GS's, but none of them have been able to pull of a VIP style. This car did though. Wheels, stance, and other pieces together. I dont know why some one posted the Fabulous and Rando kit in this thread. The Fab GS and the Rando GS belong on ClubLexus, not here :uglystupid2:


It's funny how you mention that VIP companies cannot pull off a VIP style car. These companies have been in the VIP business for a long time. What some here in the US consider "the" VIP styling is "old" in Japan and is actually played out.....welcome to the 90's. The trend in Japan is now what they call "simple style" that includes more subdued kits, flat face wheels, and a simpler design. The bold kits and big lips are in the past over in Japan and companies like JP are having trouble selling these kits over there....thusly they came out with new kits and new wheel designs. So, are we in the US behind the times, or are the Japanese....or are we just in different stages of a continuously changing market.

[firelizard]

True that....I don't think it's a coincidence that we've been seeing more simple lip kits and flat faced wheels on the newer cars...
The differences between all the posted GSs are so tiny though...a little trim here and there, and different wheels. The Fab has maybe .5" less drop and the Rando maybe a bit taller but it's just a wheel game at this point... sounds like............DUB.

[RobSoVip]

It's funny how you mention that VIP companies cannot pull off a VIP style car.* These companies have been in the VIP business for a long time.* What some here in the US consider "the" VIP styling is "old" in Japan and is actually played out.....welcome to the 90's.* The trend in Japan is now what they call "simple style" that includes more subdued kits, flat face wheels, and a simpler design.* The bold kits and big lips are in the past over in Japan and companies like JP are having trouble selling these kits over there....thusly they came out with new kits and new wheel designs.* So, are we in the US behind the times, or are the Japanese....or are we just in different stages of a continuously changing market.


Mark, a few points if I may:
1) The T's Project car does have a more subdued kit, nice lips but not super aggressive, etc.
2) Most people who are familiar with VIP cars can look at a car and tell if it has that feel- Take a look at the Fabulous car then look at the T's Project car and tell me which car looks VIP
3) Just becuase something is built by a VIPcar company does not mean its VIP. If we hold your statement that these people have been doing VIP for years and they know whats VIP, then I guess the 350Z, S2000, RX-8 among other cars are new VIPcars? (lets just look at Fabulous here for a second and leave all the other cars that Wald modifies out of this) Im going to say no. These companies are trying to make a buck, thats fine, they do not DEFINE what is VIP though. The definition and changing of trends are set by the clubs. They are the ones modifying the cars, and with as much time as* spend visiting different club websites and looking at the major meets, Im still not seeing any of these 'sporty' styled wanna'be vip rides. Lets look at the DSU Meet from last month (4/4/2006), go ahead and look through all of these cars, many of them at the top of the game, and show me all of these cars with flat, bland, wheels, etc. Thanks:
http://carlife.carview.co.jp/UserCarPhoto.asp?UserCarPhotoID=184502
http://carlife.carview.co.jp/UserCarPhoto.asp?UserCarPhotoID=184496
http://carlife.carview.co.jp/UserCarPhoto.asp?UserCarPhotoID=184493
http://carlife.carview.co.jp/UserCarPhoto.asp?UserCarPhotoID=184489
http://carlife.carview.co.jp/UserCarPhoto.asp?UserCarPhotoID=184488
http://carlife.carview.co.jp/UserCarPhoto.asp?UserCarPhotoID=184479

There, that should be close to 60 photos from a major VIP meet last month, show me this trend. thanks :idiot2:

Mark, while Im glad that you feel like your the know all of VIP now becuase you get to hang out with the JP fella's, I hate to break it to you that there is more to this scene than Junction Produce. While they were at one time the leading vip aero guys, and the aero parts to have, new companies are coming out and setting the bar higher. While JP sells out and hopes to increase sales by looking more generic, Im going to stick with the cars that attempt to convey a real sense individualnes (sp?), cars that represents the builders intensions and personal styling.

[Pagong]

This is amazing..

http://carview.r3h.net/images3.carview.co.jp/carlife/images/UserCarPhoto/184496/P5.jpg

[actolex]

Mark, while Im glad that you feel like your the know all of VIP now becuase you get to hang out with the JP fella's, I hate to break it to you that there is more to this scene than Junction Produce.


;D ..... I hate to break it to you....I never, never, claimed I knew everything about VIP.* I'm just sharing my thoughts and experiences.* You claimed I knew everything about VIP.* Why do you try to put words in my mouth or misrepresent my statements?* What exactly are you trying to prove?* Oh, and by the way, I do more than just hang out with JP, but no one believes me so it really doesn't matter.* *:2funny:

With the extensive research you did on your response, maybe you're the know it all of VIP, or at least you think so.* *;)

[firelizard]

This is amazing..

http://carview.r3h.net/images3.carview.co.jp/carlife/images/UserCarPhoto/184496/P5.jpg


I can appreciate the labour put into it but I don't like it.

[RobSoVip]

;D ..... I hate to break it to you....I never, never, claimed I knew everything about VIP.* I'm just sharing my thoughts and experiences.* You claimed I knew everything about VIP.* Why do you try to put words in my mouth or misrepresent my statements?* What exactly are you trying to prove?* Oh, and by the way, I do more than just hang out with JP, but no one believes me so it really doesn't matter.* *:2funny:

With the extensive research you did on your response, maybe you're the know it all of VIP, or at least you think so.* *;)


You never said it, but you sure do try to insinuate it. Maybe Im wrong, I have never met you in real life, but on here you do come off like that. It really seems like you are trying to justify your cars style all the time by posting.? Regardless, we will just agree to disagree.

[actolex]

It really seems like you are trying to justify your cars style all the time by posting.?



....what the heck are you talking about.....* *:D* * * *

[RobSoVip]

....what the heck are you talking about.....* *:D* * * *


I mean ever since we told you that
1) Your old IS wasnt VIP
2) The grill on the M that you made yourself was horrible
3) The first few sets of wheels you sported on the M fit like crap
etc.

you have been trying to post cars or ideas that seemed to justify those mods. Maybe its just me though, perhaps Im crazy?

[actolex]

1) Your old IS wasnt VIP
>>> Never said it was....VIP style
2) The grill on the M that you made yourself was horrible
>>> Gee tell me how you really feel ... thanks, I appreciate the constructive critizism.* Oh, the JP grill fits like crap too, eh?
3) The first few sets of wheels you sported on the M fit like crap
>>> ...and where are they now?* ....and the Works were temporary built for a GS....and I knew they didn't fit right, and said so.* The JP's, JP picked out the size, not me.
etc.

you have been trying to post cars or ideas that seemed to justify those mods. Maybe its just me though, perhaps Im crazy?

>>>> Yeah, you're probably crazy..... ;)

By the way, what VIP car do you own?* I don't have to justify any of my mods.* I don't even post pics anymore because someone like you will always pick it apart.* Funny how you're such a self proclaimed expert in VIP, but don't even own a VIP platform.* Oh, did you read my post about subdued kits and flat faced wheels....funny, I don't have any of those, so how is that justifying my mods.* :uglystupid2:* * *Guess you have to demonstrate your expertise somehow, so you put my cars down.* That's cool.....to each his own.* * :)

This thread has totally deteriorated.....sorry. Someone lock it..... :police:

[RobSoVip]

1) Your old IS wasnt VIP
>>> Never said it was....VIP style
2) The grill on the M that you made yourself was horrible
>>> Gee tell me how you really feel ... thanks, I appreciate the constructive critizism.* Oh, the JP grill fits like crap too, eh?
3) The first few sets of wheels you sported on the M fit like crap
>>> ...and where are they now?* ....and the Works were temporary built for a GS....and I knew they didn't fit right, and said so.* The JP's, JP picked out the size, not me.
etc.

you have been trying to post cars or ideas that seemed to justify those mods. Maybe its just me though, perhaps Im crazy?

>>>> Yeah, you're probably crazy..... ;) :idiot2:

By the way, what VIP car do you own?* I don't have to justify any of my mods.* I don't even post pics anymore because someone like you will always pick it apart.* Funny how you're such a self proclaimed expert in VIP, but don't even own a VIP platform.* Oh, did you read my post about subdued kits and flat faced wheels....funny, I don't have any of those, so how is that justifying my mods.* :uglystupid2:* * *Guess you have to demonstrate your expertise somehow, so you put my cars down.* That's cool.....to each his own.* * :)

This thread has totally deteriorated.....sorry.* Someone lock it.....* :police:


Your right, I dont have a VIPcar, I have no idea what Im talking about.* :'(

I have spent alot of time reading about the style, its history, the culture... I dont claim to be some expert, but I do feel like I have a pretty good grasp on it.

Here, Im done putting down your car though- I will put down this new Dub influenced VIPstyle that some of these companies are trying to popularize.

[carb0]

not to sound like a dick but, i thought we already established a vip 3rd gen gs? t's has had that car out since the release date of the vehicle itself....

[carb0]

btw like the new sig y-soarer

[firelizard]

* Funny how you're such a self proclaimed expert in VIP, but don't even own a VIP platform

I know I'm nowhere near to an expert on Vip, I'm merely a fan, but I can't help but take some offence to you using the fact that he doesn't have a Vip platform to sort of say he has no right to be talking about it. I've already taken a lot of negativity for even being here with an econobox like mine, but despite my choice of car, I can still learn and appreciate Vip, and have worthwhile opinions. So, just because YakuzaSoarer doesn't own a Vip car, really shouldn't imply that he doesn't know what he's talking about because I know he's been around here for quite sometime and is a knowledgeable guy.

[actolex]

I know I'm nowhere near to an expert on Vip, I'm merely a fan, but I can't help but take some offence to you using the fact that he doesn't have a Vip platform to sort of say he has no right to be talking about it. I've already taken a lot of negativity for even being here with an econobox like mine, but despite my choice of car, I can still learn and appreciate Vip, and have worthwhile opinions. So, just because YakuzaSoarer doesn't own a Vip car, really shouldn't imply that he doesn't know what he's talking about because I know he's been around here for quite sometime and is a knowledgeable guy.



Kinda like when he said ......

while Im glad that you feel like your the know all of VIP now becuase you get to hang out with the JP fella's"

....then confessed that I never claimed to be an expert.*

You never said it, but you sure do try to insinuate it.

Seems like someone is just trying to stir the pot* *:)* * * He may be knowledgeable, but why so much negativity.....is that what sharing your knowledge is all about, putting down others, which by the way, he admits he did when he said .....

Here, Im done putting down your car


....kinda funny how you guys stick together......sorta like ClubLexus* *;D

[RobSoVip]

Good job Mark, lets drag this out for a bit longer. I guess I was just tierd of your "hollier than thou" attitude that 'I' precieve from you. Whatever, Im over it and Im over this debate. You guys have fun with your VIP cars, Im just going to have a good time with my SC430.

[epi79]

It's funny how you mention that VIP companies cannot pull off a VIP style car.* These companies have been in the VIP business for a long time.* What some here in the US consider "the" VIP styling is "old" in Japan and is actually played out.....welcome to the 90's.* The trend in Japan is now what they call "simple style" that includes more subdued kits, flat face wheels, and a simpler design.* The bold kits and big lips are in the past over in Japan and companies like JP are having trouble selling these kits over there....thusly they came out with new kits and new wheel designs.* So, are we in the US behind the times, or are the Japanese....or are we just in different stages of a continuously changing market.

i can't agree more with you , US style is sucksssssssssss , the style always 10 years late
just look at the cell phone, JPN got alot of model , in here US we got only the cheap and ugly one

I think all the JPN vip companies trying to have "new trend" for Luxury cars , they might call LUXURY STYLE instead old VIP Style
but despite all that they still have the basic principal , BIG WHEELS and get Fucking LOW,
so who cares about VIP or not VIP style , just drop it like is hotttt..

here is pics for fun, euro+vipstyle+new luxury wheels=indonesian style !
http://www.conceptmotorsport.com/autogallery/store/041F015903EF1F43202210A308EF/333/DSC00049.jpg
http://www.conceptmotorsport.com/autogallery/store/041F015903EF1F43202210A308EF/333/DSC00050.jpg

[actolex]

Good job Mark, lets drag this out for a bit longer. I guess I was just tierd of your "hollier than thou" attitude that 'I' precieve from you. Whatever, Im over it and Im over this debate. You guys have fun with your VIP cars, Im just going to have a good time with my SC430.


;).....me too....I'm done. Enjoy the SC !! :)

[callaghan.]

I know I'm nowhere near to an expert on Vip, I'm merely a fan, but I can't help but take some offence to you using the fact that he doesn't have a Vip platform to sort of say he has no right to be talking about it. I've already taken a lot of negativity for even being here with an econobox like mine, but despite my choice of car, I can still learn and appreciate Vip, and have worthwhile opinions. So, just because YakuzaSoarer doesn't own a Vip car, really shouldn't imply that he doesn't know what he's talking about because I know he's been around here for quite sometime and is a knowledgeable guy.



i dont think he meant that because u dont have a VIPcar you cant be about it, but more along the lines of if you dont have one then don't go criticizing other people who do. i've seen mark's car in person and it is flawless and def has a nice "vip presence".* *sure, it may have taken some trial and error to get it there, but that goes with the lifestyle. if something doesnt work for the car, change it until it does! haha.

[One Ton VIP]

Unfortunately, actolex's reasons to explain himself to yakuzaso made it seem more like his car was built according to what other people told him to do... my question is: do you feel yourself having to run certain mods/stick to certain wheels and specs/think certain things because of the working relationship with JP? There is no right or wrong answer... unless it's not the truth from your inner gut. But one does get the impression that the direction of your M is dictated more by others than yourself... then again, nothing wrong with that, as it's expected of a "sponsored" car of any sort. But as long as you can realize and acknowledge that, then it all makes sense...

[actolex]

Unfortunately, actolex's reasons to explain himself to yakuzaso made it seem more like his car was built according to what other people told him to do... my question is: do you feel yourself having to run certain mods/stick to certain wheels and specs/think certain things because of the working relationship with JP? There is no right or wrong answer... unless it's not the truth from your inner gut. But one does get the impression that the direction of your M is dictated more by others than yourself... then again, nothing wrong with that, as it's expected of a "sponsored" car of any sort. But as long as you can realize and acknowledge that, then it all makes sense...



You are partially correct. The car is a demo car for JP and Falken. One of prices you pay as a sponsored vehicle is that to a certain extent, you lose the option to select the products/sizes/styles you personally want. For this reason, many are unwilling to seek sponsorships. I look at it from a different angle....I'm not so interested in obtaining free parts. I would rather gain the trust and respect from the manufacturers and assist them in the marketing of their products and services. If this includes not "getting exactly what I want", then so be it....it's part of the process. True, if I did the car by myself with no help and no obligations, I would have done some of it differently, so to make the statement car was built according to what other people told him to do is only partially true. As far as me acknowledging this....I've always done that. I think some people would rather bash the selection of equipment first than read what I actually post.