"This isn't Japan" part 1

[One Ton VIP]

This actually happened like.. I guess almost 2 years ago, but I was recently reminded of the whole incident...

I was driving down a main expressway on my way home in the evening. There was lots of traffic around. I was in my Q with its VSXX wheels, and at the time I was down probably about 3.75" or so. A little loud and annoying Miata with two flip dudes pulls up next to me while we were stopped at a red light...

Guy in shotgun: "Hey, nice President."
Me: "Thanks, but it's not a President. It's a Q45."
Guy: "Naw man, it's a President. Like in Japan. The President."
Me: "This isn't Japan. And it's a Q45."
(sad part is even in Japan the Q45 is known as the Q45, so they were still wrong)

I really can't wait till someone comments on my "Estima" so I can have a "This isn't Japan" part 2

[RobSoVip]

I agree with you on that too. Its kind of hypocritical since my username has Soarer in it, but I created it back a few years ago when this site first got going. Now I find it annoying when people post their cars on here or where ever calling the car their "Celsior", "Aristo", "Soarer", etc. I should just have my name changed to exeUZZ40.

[vipguy]

ehh i'm kinda crossed on that..
people over there will be a SC430 or a GS430 emblem on their
soarer's and aristo's..

people here do the opposite...
soarer and aristo on their gs's and sc's..

but for the Q45 to be called a president.. i do got to agree...
like you can't call that ugly ass SAAB that was based on the WRX WAGON
a WRX Wagon.. u know.. its just not a WRX..

so i dont mind the mixture of name calling. but i do mind the wrong calling(IE: president/q45)

[Dominik]

Spare a thought for us poor aussies, with imported cars that were never released here (oh the suffering ;D)

But seriously, it used to annoy me to tears when i would drive up in my imported Toyota Soarer and someone would say "Nice Lexus". 90% of the soarers imported here from Japan get rebadged to Lexus by owners who want to look more important...

Toyota Celsiors are rebadged to Lexus LS400s and there are lots of other examples... insurance companies dont have a chance of keeping up. Lots of people have "Lexus Soarer" or Toyota SC400 (for a 2.5LTT) listed on their policy; which might provide a nice get-out clause for the insurance company if they have an expensive accident.

[firelizard]

I don't like giving in to the JDM naming craze. Even if you badge your LS as a Celsior, it's still a USDM LS. I don't mind the badges to make them look authentic but now people are calling everything by their Japanese name! Even my friend, who loves AE86 Corollas (Trueno Hatch) never calls them Corollas, he always calls then Hachis or Truenos. :eyeroll: oh well

[VIPLifestyle]

I suppose it sounds better, or more "knowledgeable" if people call your car its Japanese counterpart. My roomate has a 97 240sx, which he has badged with "Silvia" and "K's", but we still refer to her as a 240sx. What really
annoys me is when people throw out nothing but chassis codes to me. When someone says, "A friend of mine has a DC2R with a DC5 K20 motor, and he raced an AP1 and a JZA70 on the freeway, while I watched
in Z32, right behind my other friend in his SW20." That gets irritating.

[Gao Jian]

you know this is going to get even worse once Tokyo Drift comes out! :'(

[VIPete]

HAHA thanks for sharing Van :D

[Xotic sC]

Everyone in the SC300/SC400 section of Club Lexus thinks their vehicle is a Soarer. :buck2: Especially the wannabe drifters. :2funny:
(P.S. not everyone... :idiot2:)

[vipguy]

you know this is going to get even worse once Tokyo Drift comes out! :'(


have you seen the trailor/preview???

"you aint in control, unless you're out of control"
I CAN'T WAIT! I THINK IT'S GONNA BE AWESOME!
:)

[Gao Jian]

have you seen the trailor/preview???

"you aint in control, unless you're out of control"
I CAN'T WAIT! I THINK IT'S GONNA BE AWESOME!
:)

I am planning on getting very very very drunk before I see it with all the guys I used to build drag cars with and laughing my ass off the whole time :2funny:

[AME_VIP]

I take it as a compliment. I had a parts guy say " Wow your car looks like a Soarer from Japan" The wheel fitment plays a big part in that. The body kit is nothing special.

People are wrong all the time but I don't feel like telling them they are wrong. I just nod my head ha

[CharismaY33]

yea that kinda gets annoying sometimes. Half the time i dont even pay attention but if someone went off and did a whole race according to chassiss codes i would have to get the babby powda and slap the ish outta him that would drive me up the wall grrr. ohh well its jdm JooH hahaha... ;D whadda gonna do.

[firelizard]

I suppose it sounds better, or more "knowledgeable" if people call your car its Japanese counterpart.* My roomate has a 97 240sx, which he has badged with "Silvia" and "K's", but we still refer to her as a 240sx. What really
annoys me is when people throw out nothing but chassis codes to me.* When someone says, "A friend of mine has a DC2R with a DC5 K20 motor, and he raced an AP1 and a JZA70 on the freeway, while I watched
in Z32, right behind my other friend in his SW20."* That gets irritating.

I like chassis codes, it's more precise, unless of course the person you're talking to doesn't understand.
I mostly understood yours: "A friend of mine has a 3rd generation Acura Integra Type R with a 4th gen ITR motor. He raced a (?) and a Lexus SC300(?) on the freeway while I watched in my 2nd generation Nissan 300ZX, right behind my other friend in his 2nd generation Toyota MR-2." ?
It helps avoid stuff like
"I saw a 240SX the other day!" (false enthusiasm :P)
"Really? What kind?"
It's a bit more descriptive sometimes. (unless it's an S13...damn, too many variations lol)

[VIPLifestyle]

I like chassis codes, it's more precise, unless of course the person you're talking to doesn't understand.
I mostly understood yours: "A friend of mine has a 3rd generation Acura Integra Type R with a 4th gen ITR motor. He raced a (?) and a Lexus SC300(?) on the freeway while I watched in my 2nd generation Nissan 300ZX, right behind my other friend in his 2nd generation Toyota MR-2." ?
It helps avoid stuff like
"I saw a 240SX the other day!" (false enthusiasm :P)
"Really? What kind?"
It's a bit more descriptive sometimes. (unless it's an S13...damn, too many variations lol)


I guess you make a good point. I'm just saying that sometimes people keeping saying it and throwing it in your face like they are a walking Option Magazine, that annoys me.

And AP1=S2000 and JZA70=MKIII(Third gen)Supra. ;)

[RobSoVip]

JZZ31=SC300
UZZ30=SC400
UZZ40=SC430
JZS147=First Gen GS300
JZS160=Second Gen GS300
JZS161=Sencond Gen GS400
GRS190=Third Gen GS300
VZV21= ES250
VCV10= ES300
MCV20= Second Gen ES300
MCV30= ES330
UCF10=First Gen LS400
UCF20=Second Gen LS400
UCF30=Third Gen LS430
G50=First Gen Q45
Y33=Second Gen Q45
F50=Third Gen Q45
Y34=First Gen M45

Hows that for a list

[RHDVIPbB]

I almost had the same problem when I owned a Conquest TSi. Nobody knew what it was until I said Mitsubishi Starion.

If someone used chassis codes in a conversation I would slap the nonsense out of them.

[Pagong]

If someone used chassis codes in a conversation I would slap the nonsense out of them.


Dont go to Honduh-tech then...those guys are the JDM gurus and chassis code enforcers.. ;D

"For sale EF9 Civic in Ohio" LOL

[RobSoVip]

I almost had the same problem when I owned a Conquest TSi. Nobody knew what it was until I said Mitsubishi Starion.

If someone used chassis codes in a conversation I would slap the nonsense out of them.


Its how cars on Yahoo Japan are distinguished... People wont have any confusion when they hear a chassis code. If they know what the code means, then they know exactly what you got.

[RHDVIPbB]

Dont go to Honduh-tech then...those guys are the JDM gurus and chassis code enforcers.. ;D

"For sale EF9 Civic in Ohio"* LOL


See I can understand in a classified ad, but not when I am sitting around talking to friends at my house or on the phone.

[Ender-DI]

JZA70=MKIII(Third gen)Supra. ;)

Even that's not quite right. JZA70 is the Supra that Japan got with the 1JZ in it. And, although its body style was the US's third gen Supra, the first two generations of Supra in Japan were just different trim levels of Celica. So, a JZA70 is technically a 1st Gen Supra for Japan, and a third gen Supra that we never got in the US. ??? :D

[allstar]

I suppose it sounds better, or more "knowledgeable" if people call your car its Japanese counterpart.* My roomate has a 97 240sx, which he has badged with "Silvia" and "K's", but we still refer to her as a 240sx. What really
annoys me is when people throw out nothing but chassis codes to me.* When someone says, "A friend of mine has a DC2R with a DC5 K20 motor, and he raced an AP1 and a JZA70 on the freeway, while I watched
in Z32, right behind my other friend in his SW20."* That gets irritating.


thats a bit differnet. ap1, dc2, dc5, etc are all chasis codes... not the japanese name. honda integra.. whatever. but chasis codes are acceptble imo.

[firelizard]

thats a bit differnet. ap1, dc2, dc5, etc are all chasis codes... not the japanese name. honda integra.. whatever. but chasis codes are acceptble imo.

That's very true. It does bug me when people call their cars by the JDM name, even if they're not even JDM badged or anything. People here (NA) need to understand their Integra is an Acura, not a Honda, and that their Protege is not a Familia (yeah, I've seen it). JDM rebadging is cool in my books if you've got say, a Silvia front on your S-chassis, or a JDM Integra front clip, JDM lights etc. or something, but I dunno, it still kinda bugs me how people are getting obsessed with their cars being something they're not.
The only exception I make when talking about my car in particular is when I'm talking to someone from another country where there is no such thing as a "Protege"

[Brandicus]

hmmn, I didnt realize how important this was to you guys :coolsmiley: I guess ill lay off the celsior comments then ;D

[jbo]

I guess Im guilty too because my xB definately has bB emblems all over it :-\ I do like it this way so sorry (not really) its gonna stay this way.

[firelizard]

I guess Im guilty too because my xB definately has bB emblems all over it* :-\ I do like it this way so sorry (not really) its gonna stay this way.

Not to nitpick your xB but I've noticed in general a lot of OD front grilles. Now, am I mistaken in thinking these are for the Open Deck bBs...which is a pickup style bB?
http://www.vitz.ru/sys_images/4012.jpg
Now, I definitely think it is a great looking mod but....to me having the OD badge is like me putting a 323F Badge on my car..

[username]

that shit is suzuki samurai.

[firelizard]

that s*** is suzuki samurai.

Huh? It does look similar, but it's a Toyota bB OpenDeck

[jbo]

Your absolutely right and nothing is open on my car I do like the look of the grill though.Ive thought of getting the grill emblem that lights up and says bB but I guess Id still be fronting huh? ??? My car will be to my liking and thats all that matters to me foreal I really like the Japanese way of styling and it will come through on my cars I think, so think and say what you want I'll be ok. ;)

[firelizard]

No no, I understand you p.o.v., it's just a better looking part. Just comes to down to opinions on stuff like if relevance is important.

[username]

it would be dope if that yellow xb have removable cab.

[jbo]

No no, I understand you p.o.v., it's just a better looking part. Just comes to down to opinions on stuff like if relevance is important.


Its no biggie

[shawnthemonster]

i just think that people in the states want to seem cool like their king ding-a-ling because they know something about cars in japan. ive got the whole nice estima thing recently and i almost laughed.

[One Ton VIP]

i just think that people in the states want to seem cool like their king ding-a-ling because they know something about cars in japan. ive got the whole nice estima thing recently and i almost laughed.


Did you correct him and go "It's a Previa buddy!"

[CHUPACABRIO]

i got the oem cima hood emblem on my Q because, well its a fucking clamshell and looks ridiclious on the car. not becuase i want to badge it as a cima.

[RASRX7]

if you're gonna go that route..your knit picking at the whole reason all of us got into this vip/jdm thing...u might as well switch over to cl or what ever other forums you can go on where they dont do the badge swapping, name dropping deal..its just the way it works in this vip style scene, at least,* the same way the celsior and aristos in japan are taking on the ls and gs badges..dropping toyota for lexus badges..

u dont think they go around clowning each other in japan saying.."hey, thats a freakin celsior, why the hell are you claiming its a lexus. that model only exist in the u.s. and yours is right had drive dummy...in the us they are on the left..how dumb...?!!..thats just stupid" ....(in your head you have to picture the peoples mouth moving, then the sound of their voices coming out after their mouths stop moving...kung fu style ;D)..

come on now..until i see you all drop your estima, aristo, celsior badges on your cars and screennames...its lilke killing this forum..as moderators...

ur probably matured beyond this forum and vip style and its time to move into a classy lincoln continental or a ford crown vic..have pride in the u.s. luxury cars....and really be real..

its a good point..but not here...just the way vip style works..maybe for the hyundais and mustangs with type r and gtr badges, would it really apply.. :)

but as far as it goes, i dont see anyone else who got that unless they are in japan or australia..and the guy with the rhd gloria in san diego and the rhd aristo in texas..and any other rhd jdm cars in the U.S...might as well make a new name for this forum if you have that mentality..how about "U.S. styledluxurysedans.com, we dontcopyjapanstylecars.com, U.S.fixedupcars.com or fixedupprevias.com.....

see it sounds better as vipstylecars.com...accent on "style"

[RASRX7]

i just think that people in the states want to seem cool like their king ding-a-ling because they know something about cars in japan. ive got the whole nice estima thing recently and i almost laughed.
why are you even spending tons of money to ship in parts from japan with that mentality..why not go get a erebuni kit, wing west kit, or some lexanis, or chapman air ride kits...all made in the U.S. and basically do what the jdm equivalent does...and dont say cause u got a previa..why are u even trying to fix up your previa then...why not sell it then and get a aerostar..o wait they discontinued that...how about a windstar...ive seen some nicely done astro vans..GO USA ;D treading lightly..casue maybe u were drunk when you did this too... ;D

[shawnthemonster]

why are you even spending tons of money to ship in parts from japan with that mentality..why not go get a erebuni kit, wing west kit, or some lexanis, or chapman air ride kits...all made in the U.S. and are basically do what the jdm equivalent does...and dont say cause u got a previa..why are u even trying to fix up your previa then...why not sell it then and get a aerostar..o wait they discontinued that...how about a windstar...ive seen some nicely done astro vans..GO USA ;D


i had a tsunami kit :-[ but it didnt work out like i wanted.
but i dont go around calling my previa an estima, i dont have an estima badge....i would get a US van if they were more geared to suit the style i was going after. so i have to get stuff from japan. so do you go around calling everything by its japanese name?

[RASRX7]

i had a tsunami kit* :-[* but it didnt work out like i wanted.
but i dont go around calling my previa an estima, i dont have an estima badge....i would get a US van if they were more geared to suit the style i was going after. so i have to get stuff from japan. so do you go around calling everything by its japanese name?
what style are you going for then??....japanese style...so the parts you are getting for arent for the previa..how do you scout for parts in japan..right....as estima...so ...basically...technically ... :) the difference is the same..no sense to fight over it now..as far as calling my car a president, there are alot more celsiors and aristos running around and alot of them are moderators on here too...

theres such high hopes for your estima from us here at fetchvip..dont disspappoint us now with this nonsense..hehehehhe ;)

[shawnthemonster]

well im puting estima parts on my previa. yes im going for japanese style with my van..... and i guess with the headlamps and tail lamps im closer to a estima then a previa now.

[RASRX7]

well im puting estima parts on my previa. yes im going for japanese style with my van..... and i guess with the headlamps and tail lamps im closer to a estima then a previa now.
exaclty and were proud of it..down here in socal...uve taken the biggest steps that alot of previa owners are afraid to do...i even disconitued the idea of getting one cause i saw the progress on yours.....u rep for the previas all over the U.S. and in our forum...as vip "style"...you are setting the example of what can be done to the US previa bringing it closer to its jdm counterpart the estima..theres even only a handfull of the moderators i would call vip and you are one of them. the rest who arent should step down. anyone can get wheels and be slammed...just a note ;)

if any one can claim estima..u for sure can...and there are a few others that are coming up with you...and the people who tell you other wise...really waht do they have or even have to offer..nothing but misery from jealousy...thats waht should be your motivation to take it to the farthest extremes..to get it to the estima state..

and thats nothing a rhd conversion and motor swap cant fix..is the sliding door on the other side too....hehehe..jk..way too exteme but close enough..* :idiot2:< thats me..i know im crazy..i converted a rhd long wheel base president to a lhd model to avoid getting pulled over and making it easier to reg as a q45..go figure... ;D

[Dominik]

u dont think they go around clowning each other in japan saying.."hey, thats a freakin celsior, why the hell are you claiming its a lexus. that model only exist in the u.s. and yours is right had drive dummy...in the us they are on the left..how dumb...?!!..thats just stupid" ....(in your head you have to picture the peoples mouth moving, then the sound of their voices coming out after their mouths stop moving...kung fu style ;D)..


Not sure what you meant by "i dont see anyone else who got that unless they are in japan or australia", but i can tell you that in Australia there ARE lots of us who laugh at those who rebadge their RHD Imported Soarer/Celsiors as Lexus SCs and LSs. Car dealers used to do it on all imported Soarers they brought in because "Lexus SC400s" sell for more than Toyota Soarer GT Limiteds (same car, different badges).

I remember having my Soarer at a car show next to another club member who had badged his soarer as a Lexus. A young couple came up and she pointed out "hey, one is a lexus and that one is a toyota, what is the difference?" To which the boy replied "Oh, the lexus ones are more luxurious and have more options"

Even though my Toyota was one of the most optioned up Soarers around (air suspension, heated seats, touchscreen, reversing camera etc), where his didnt even have a TV in the dash!

I say you can go with whatever it says on your registration papers...

[RASRX7]

by the quote i meant that none of us here in the U.S. will ever have the option of ever having a legit soarer or any jdm model available to you, without paying up alot for them and that what makes it so much more interesting to try to get and convert something closely related to it on the U.S. Side...im sure in australia or in japan, you have the luxury of having both options available to you, which gives you the greatest advantage to enjoy both. ;)

[Yurikaze]

Everyone seems to be overstressing over this whole thing..
I just go with with whatever name/chassis code best describes the car and is easiest to say. From a car designer point of view, most of the times the cars were styled as a single model, and it was Marketing that decided on the name change.
If you really want to get anal about it, you have to call a 2003 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution a Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution, but a 2004 a Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII. the VIII designation wasn't official until late 2003, even though it's the exact same car. It was just changed for marketing.
For ease of description and truth in aesthetics, if a car has everything needed to be called a certain model, the owner should be able to refer to the car as that in converstation, just as long as they don't try to pass it off as a factory piece.
For example, an '70 Oldsmobile Cutlass owner *who's done everything to convert his car to a 442, should be able to refer to it in conversation as a442 after establishing that it is not in fact a factory car. It's easier to say than "my Cutlass modified to 442 specs" If it looks like, performs like, handles like, and pretty much has all the same parts, it should be able to use the name which most closely describes it.
Factory Five roadsters are not real Cobras, but all their owners refer to them as a Cobra.
What's worse are people getting their panties in a bunch over hybrid cars. The easiest case to bring up is some people getting bent out of shape over calling a 240SX fastback with a silvia face a Sileighty. Sileighties were never factory cars, (Kid's heart was aftermarket), and Sileighty describes the aesthetic. Anyone who's seen initial D, or played gran turismo knows what a Sileighty describes. So why do people get all bent out of shape when a car that meets the description is called this? Some people believe that it should be called a Sil40, but if this naming system were followed, than any S13 with silvia face would be called this, leading to confusion.
Because of this, I believe that someone with a converted Lexus SC with a 1JZ swap should be able to describe his car as a Soarer if it has all the parts of one, because technically it is closer to being a Soarer than an SC at this point.
I believe you should be able to call your car whatever you want, AS LONG AS IT APPLIES, and you have taken pains to actually make it that way. Too many people are getting constipated over nitpicking details that don't really matter.
These are just nicknames for your cars, enjoy them.
You don't see me correcting someone who introduces themsleves to me as a Rick, when in fact his birth certificate says Richard.

[RASRX7]

I believe that someone with a converted Lexus SC with a 1JZ swap should be able to describe his car as a Soarer if it has all the parts of one, because technically it is closer to being a Soarer than an SC at this point.
I believe you should be able to call your car whatever you want, AS LONG AS IT APPLIES, and you have taken pains to actually make it that way. Too many people are getting constipated over nitpicking details that don't really matter.
These are just nicknames for your cars, enjoy them.

definitely agree... :)..and just some 180sx and silvia history, that i hurd,* the sileighty technically was sold outta the nissan dealers new...there was a transition when drifters started buying the 180sx and* were learning to drift but kept smashing up the front, the silvia front end was cheaper, so they took the silvia front end and slapped it on creating the sil80...the dealers noticed this change and copied what the drifters did ..it was a marketing deal to get all the old inventory off the lot..same way the silvia convertible was made...they had way too many coupes and so they chopped off the roof of existing stock one and created the convertible. All just marketing ploys to get the old stock out..creating limited edition cars. all work was done by aftermarket companies closely related to the local dealers, kinda how chevy takes there cargo vans and sends them to aftermarket shops to "convert" them into homes on wheels, "conversion" vans.or how the new cars adpated the once kool "altezza" style tailights in to the late models... ;).just what i hurd..

[jtanoyo1]

Funny how we never have this problem over here in Asia....

[RASRX7]

Funny how we never have this problem over here in Asia....
lucky...hahahahha.... ;)

[VIPete]

:tickedoff:



Sigh... :-\

[BASTOS]

This actually happened like.. I guess almost 2 years ago, but I was recently reminded of the whole incident...

I was driving down a main expressway on my way home in the evening. There was lots of traffic around. I was in my Q with its VSXX wheels, and at the time I was down probably about 3.75" or so. A little loud and annoying Miata with two flip dudes pulls up next to me while we were stopped at a red light...

Guy in shotgun: "Hey, nice President."
Me: "Thanks, but it's not a President. It's a Q45."
Guy: "Naw man, it's a President. Like in Japan. The President."
Me: "This isn't Japan. And it's a Q45."
(sad part is even in Japan the Q45 is known as the Q45, so they were still wrong)

I really can't wait till someone comments on my "Estima" so I can have a "This isn't Japan" part 2


back to the whole idea of this post of being annoyed by having their car called the wrong name... who cares? why are you crying about it really? your're car looked good and so it was admired. You should be happy. The admirers may have just have been a bit ignorant by calling your Q a "president" and so it wasn't, Big Deal. They weren't have as ignorant as you "two flip dudes" come on now... Are you kidding me? You want to start a post about "I'm so annoyed and tired of people calling my car something that's it's not" You sound like a llittle B!@#$ if you ask me. :tickedoff: I'm not trying to start trouble here I guess I'd just be more annoyed and bothered of someone making ignorant racist comments than somebody crying about something so stupid as your car being misnamed. It really bothers me how a person with enough money to afford all of the upgrades on their car who obiviously doesn't have financial problems is complaining about such retarded things... Is that your only problem in life. HAHA Did your daddy and mommy bye you everything or what? :knuppel2:

[CHUPACABRIO]

I'm not trying to start trouble here I guess I'd just be more annoyed and bothered of someone making ignorant racist comments than somebody crying about something so stupid as your car being misnamed.

Is that your only problem in life. HAHA Did your daddy and mommy bye you everything or what? :knuppel2:


Pot meet kettle. sounds to me like you are trying to start trouble here.

Every scene has people that call their cars by the other countries in which its sold's name. it's just people trying to be a little more "scene" than other people.

[One Ton VIP]

it's a social commentary... on how deluded people can be, and having the feeling of insecurity and uncertainty, and just overall lack of identity, to feel the need to show some form of superiority by referring to stuff in such an esoteric way. And of course the irony in this particular instance is the fact that the g50 q45 was not known as a president in japan either.

and there was a long-winded post earlier somewhere here that intrigued me.... it was very defensive in nature. sorta interesting because usually only "those who are guilty of the crime, need feel guilty of the crime." Interesting that some people think that it's awesome to fix up their cars like how the japanese do it... I mean i suppose that is one approach you can take, but I don't know about other people, but I try to fix up my cars how I like it, regardless of how it's done in japan, europe, or the US. You don't run certain parts JUST BECAUSE they're from japan, you run them because they are inherently superior in some way to the parts you are replacing them with. with that said, for example, there's a reason I haven't swapped in jdm headlights on my Q for example... their beam SUCKS, ESPECIALLY the high beam. USDM headlights way better... so until i can figure a good way to increase output on the jdm lights to my standards, the usdm stays. But of course there's tons of people who would immediately want to swap in the jdm lights JUST BECAUSE they're jdm, and thus, they think they're so much better. Not everything that's different is always better... but hey, if that's the sole driving purpose for some people's mods, then I guess that's that... just kinda intriguing. and even more intriguing when such people claim they fix their cars up "for themselves" when it's quite obvious that putting such mods on their cars is more for the masses to cry out "omg, check out that jdm part!" again, this isn't about anyone in particular, cuz to some extend, everyone is guilty of this, but there's just an inordinate amount that are too caught up in the "jdm parts are better," and "if it's different, it must be better" mentality. news flash: different is NOT always better.

[garaget]

This actually happened like.. I guess almost 2 years ago, but I was recently reminded of the whole incident...

I was driving down a main expressway on my way home in the evening. There was lots of traffic around. I was in my Q with its VSXX wheels, and at the time I was down probably about 3.75" or so. A little loud and annoying Miata with two flip dudes pulls up next to me while we were stopped at a red light...

Guy in shotgun: "Hey, nice President."
Me: "Thanks, but it's not a President. It's a Q45."
Guy: "Naw man, it's a President. Like in Japan. The President."
Me: "This isn't Japan. And it's a Q45."
(sad part is even in Japan the Q45 is known as the Q45, so they were still wrong)

I really can't wait till someone comments on my "Estima" so I can have a "This isn't Japan" part 2


You shouldn't be too annoyed since it was coming from those guys, it's not like two guys rolling up in a JP'd out or FAB'd out sedan saying the same thing to you. Now that is freaking annoying lol

[RASRX7]

wow...this post got brought back to the top..i thought it was done... ;)

[J Stuff]

down here in texas where the "scene" isnt as big as other places its damn interesting to see people re-badge. Its the thing to do around here.

[shoez]

In my opinion, I'm not really bothered by the whole JDM-name calling issue. It's like a nick name for those who are "in the know" about Japanese automobiles, a validation that they are truly part of this car culture. If anything, its just a form of flattery. Shawn, would you rather have someone come up to you and say, "Nice Estima!" or some jerk shout "Who the fuck would style out a Previa? Its a minivan for Christsake." :)

And personally, I would rather have someone call their Acura Integra a "DC2" then put a big Type-R sticker on the side. :P

[tjg00]

I dont like chassis coder people. Its says S2000 on the back, not AP1. Im really fed up with this whole stupid JDM, Option, "lets go run touge in our DC5's" thing.

[Gao Jian]

I dont like chassis coder people. Its says S2000 on the back, not AP1. Im really fed up with this whole stupid JDM, Option, "lets go run touge in our DC5's" thing.


I don't hear much of the touge thing around here but it seems like everyone i know is a street "drifter" :uglystupid2:

[tjg00]

Yeah thats for sure. I guess flooring it at a left turn light in the rain counts for drifting these days. Poor kids. Ive too many friends into that doodoo, Im glad that I might be the only person in palmdale that actually wants to persue a vip style car(even though my car isnt considered VIP)

[Dominik]

The thing that gets me more than calling cars by chassis codes is the old "i'm so 'leet because i can drop a couple of Japanese words here and there" trick... Calling a car a sha (from the japanese character of 車), or calling coilovers shakouchou's (from 車高調 usually incorrectly said as shakucho)

This is something which i have seen alot of on different forums (specifically Drift, Honda etc forums)... and the perpetrators usually cant say anything else in Japanese other than a single phrase which their friend told them "俺はドリフトだいすき～！" or something like that (which they say with ridiculous accents).

Almost as bad as the chinese/korean waitresses they hire in Japanese restaurants to look 'authentic'. I love the look on their faces when i rattle off my order in Japanese... Usually scampering back to the kitchen to get the only Japanese waitress in the place to help me out...

[firelizard]

Wow, I've never taken my wannabe JDMness anywhere near that xD
Sure, I like it and use terms like chokudori, SHLACK, and YATTA!!!!, when drifting in GT4, but that's another story, it's all in good fun. (the "shlack" is from a D1 video me and my friend saw, the judges were going nuts and yelling shlackshlackshlack!! but we never found out what it meant)

I can't stand people who use random Japanese terms just because they know them.
Dork: "I saw a kitsune the other day"
Moi: "No, you saw a fox."
I'm gonna have to start going Jackson style on them..."ENGLISH MOTHER F***ER...etc"

[f31Roger]

sorry guys, people are gonna use the terms regardless. I do use body codes alot just kuz i think its kool, but i use US names.

oh well, its not Japan, but we try to aim our cars to be Japanese style right?

[NG C-Klasse]

sorry guys, people are gonna use the terms regardless. I do use body codes alot just kuz i think its kool, but i use US names.

oh well, its not Japan, but we try to aim our cars to be Japanese style right?

Well, we used chassis codes before the whole JDM phenomenon, so I don't think that's a big deal at all. In Europe they do it too...so what's the big deal there? So yah, no worries on that stuff and yes, people will use the terms, mostly for fun. I think people take that kind of stuff too seriously...haha, I mean come on guys..how many times have you heard a Japanese friend say a random English word at the wrong time? Haha...it's all good in my book...just don't always say the same on word like super often...that DOES get irritating.

[f31Roger]

I try not to use kouki or zenki wiith 240s.. but with leopards, I do.

if someone said I like your leopard, i just say thank you. there's always the debate of something going on the forums.. like "a 240 is not a silvia"....

oh well, I was refering to the first post and title of the thread.

[firelizard]

I use kouki and zenki sometimes when referring to gen2 and 2.5 Proteges because I don't believe in .5 generations (it's not halfway the next generation, it's just different) and it's shorter than saying 95-96 and 97-98
So I'm guilty of using japanese for convenience =(